RE: A question regarding proof
September 7, 2011 at 10:01 pm
(This post was last modified: September 7, 2011 at 10:16 pm by Fred.)
(September 7, 2011 at 9:31 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote:(September 7, 2011 at 9:21 pm)Fred Wrote: ...and my argument goes to a very specific place.
So far it has gone nowhere because you refuse to take it anywhere.
Once again, is there a point to all of this?
Yes. Your evidence demand, far from being the kill shot you all think it is, is built on sand and you guys don't really believe it either.
Of course, every time I bring that point up, it instantly gets dismissed, yet never gets examined. So I figured I would show you, but looks like folks are not willing to engage.
Here's the beauty of it. If, like Rhythm says, you just let me "do my thing," my argument will either stand or fall of its own weight. But it doesn't seem like anyone's willing to take a chance on that because we've swiftly moved to these feeble efforts to dismiss it before letting it play out.
Seems like a pretty cowardly move to me, coming from a crowd that crows so much about how reason and evidence should carry the day, but that shit appears to be nothing but slogans for most.
The true free-thinker would be engaging this, not seeking to muddy the waters. Looks like Rhythm's invitation to join him for waffles was a well-accepted one.
(September 7, 2011 at 9:44 pm)ElDinero Wrote: Oh great, we've got another one who claims they've already provided the evidence but won't show us where, and it's our fault for not looking for it. Bore off, will you?
Heh. I didn't say I provided the evidence. I said I provided the point. I'd be happy to continue providing the evidence, but something funny happened on the way and the choir is now singing for its supper.
But again, just so you can keep up, the evidence demand is broken and if pressed, you guys will happily show that you don't even believe it yourselves. Rhythm got closest to admitting it, but he was smart enough to see where it was going and so he shifted gears into obfuscatory mode before the real hell broke loose.
And he was successful, too, because I've run out of time. I'll try and pick it up again tomorrow, but that will probably just lead to more of this so score another victory for reason and logic as the beacons that so obviously light the way around here.
Science goes where the evidence leads, but that doesn't mean anyone has to follow if it bumps up against their cherished beliefs. Faith is strong stuff.