The Vilest Anti-Vaccine Lie

[Anomalocaris]

I bet jesus approves, though.

I bet he did. The more a man is successfully encouraged to doubt men's capacity to master his fate through perserverence, effort and knowledge, the more he easily he is turned to religion.

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Surprisingly, Min, this isn't much of a religious issue. Rather like organics, it spans the spectrum.

I think both the organic and the vaccine issues have their origins in a fundamental mistrust of humanity's ability to systematically improve upon the world in which he finds himself. It is better to leave thing be, or do things in what one conceive to be the way nature "intended" it, then to actually try and become better than a primitive savage. Any attempt at improvement is "arrogance", any application of systematic knowledge suspect.

When humanity believes that it could not improve its own lot through its own endeavors, then religion comes in to take advantage of the situation with bait and switch.

It's not religion per se, but it is reflective of a fundamental problem of which religion is one of the worse consequences.

[Cyberman]

Wow. Just - wow. I can't decide which part of this is the more criminally stupid: the fact that there exist people who think it's a valid way to cover up the killing of a baby, or that there people who swallow it. Vaccinations are the new devil or the new 9/11 for these idiots. Killed your baby? Vaccinations! Sacked from your job? Vaccinations! Economy collapsing? Hmm, let's see...
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[thesummerqueen]

Per usual, Chuck, you sail in and get to the heart of the matter. I absolutely agree.

The reason I pointed it out to Min is because the people who really get into this shit tend to actually be the better educated and the more liberal - even less 'religious' in the traditional sense of the word.

There are, of course, certain religious sects who don't allow it either. But it doesn't hinge on Jesus or Jehovah (or Allah) so much as it does the idea that humanity is a cancer itself upon the earth.

[The Grand Nudger]

While I'm not familiar with anti-vac history...organic ag is absolutely steeped in religion, the supernatural, and magic. That's where it came from...not even close to kidding. The initial gripe about fertilizers were that they lacked "neccessary spiritual energy" and were thusly not a good source of nourishment (your spirit has to eat after all).

(though all of their rituals and "preperations" amounted to fertilization)