Psalm 137:9

[The Grand Nudger]

All your claims are false. Even historians believe Jews were slaves to Egypt. I've heard atheists say the same on here. No proof Jesus existed? Look for a relating thread. It's called "any evidence for a historical Jesus?" I posted 7 documents all saying he existed. Only one was called a fraud. I'm sorry we don't have DVD's for you but we can't provide that kind of evidence that can't possibly exist.

No, they don't. No, there isn't. What is it that people don't like about the egyptians? Can we just stop with all the mythology bullshit and let them have their fucking pyramids for a change?

[chi pan]

Hasn't happened yet. From my understanding it's supposed to happen during the apocalypse. I don't exactly know so I will look for the answer. I wish you would do that instead of jumping to conclusions.

Oh, chippy - so typical of believing sheep. Ezekiel's "prophecy against Tyre" begins with Nebuchadnezzar attacking it ( which he did ) and destroying it ( which he did not. ) Are you expecting Nebuchadnezzar to be resurrected just so your fucking prophecy can come true?

Just how fucking stupid are you?

Well I said I would look into it and so I did. The fact is, tyre was destroyed. The attack of nebuchadnezzar was 586 to 573 bc. It was 13 yeas of siege until it was finally destroyed. It wasn't completely destroyed but the ruins on the island fort are still there today.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tyre...l_Arch.jpg

Here's the source
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyre,_Lebanon

[Jaysyn]

All your claims are false.

No they aren't. If you think the Shoud of Turin is authentic or that a global flood occurred, then you are horribly deluded.

Even historians believe Jews were slaves to Egypt.

Protip: "Biblical" historians aren't real historians. They have no proof that is accepted as such by their peers. The bible isn't proof no matter how many voices you hear in your head.

I posted 7 documents all saying he existed. Only one was called a fraud.

You mean the thread where Minimalist, Rhythm & Deist Paladin hand you your ass on platter? You think you had convincing evidence? No wonder you are religious.

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Well I said I would look into it and so I did. The fact is, tyre was destroyed. The attack of nebuchadnezzar was 586 to 573 bc. It was 13 yeas of siege until it was finally destroyed. It wasn't completely destroyed but the ruins on the island fort are still there today.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tyre...l_Arch.jpg

Here's the source
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyre,_Lebanon

So your god tries to destroy a city for thirteen years & can't quite get all of it? That sure is a weak ass god. You are not helping your case here at all Chippy.

[chi pan]

All your claims are false.

No they aren't. If you think the Shoud of Turin is authentic or that a global flood occurred, then you are horribly deluded.

Even historians believe Jews were slaves to Egypt.

Protip: "Biblical" historians aren't real historians. They have no proof that is accepted as such by their peers. The bible isn't proof no matter how many voices you hear in your head.

I posted 7 documents all saying he existed. Only one was called a fraud.

You mean the thread where Minimalist, Rhythm & Deist Paladin hand you your ass on platter? You think you had convincing evidence? No wonder you are religious.

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Well I said I would look into it and so I did. The fact is, tyre was destroyed. The attack of nebuchadnezzar was 586 to 573 bc. It was 13 yeas of siege until it was finally destroyed. It wasn't completely destroyed but the ruins on the island fort are still there today.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tyre...l_Arch.jpg

Here's the source
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyre,_Lebanon

So your god tries to destroy a city for thirteen years & can't quite get all of it? That sure is a weak ass god. You are not helping your case here at all Chippy.

1. The shroud of Turin was dated in the 1980's using carbon dating and the result was it was from the 1400's or so. Because of this it was thought to be a well known fraud. However, recent tests have been conducted that found that the sample taken from the corner of it to date may not have been the same. Scanning the cloth they found it was a different material, it was woven differently, and it had dies in that corner that were inconsistent with the rest of the cloth. They concluded that this corner they used to date it with was a medevil patch. They are currently waiting on church approval to do a new carbon dating process that will date all of it without damaging it. I honestly don't care if it's real or not my beliefs don't revolve around it.

2. Handed my ass? At best they discredited one of my evidences as a fraud. I gave 7. There's certainly more evidence of historical Jesus than evolution.

3. No you weren't paying attention were you? King Nebuchadnezzar attacked Tyre not God. If God wanted to destroy it himself he would have done it like he did sodom and gamorah.

[Cyberman]

It never ceases to amaze me how much some believers have to distort the facts to fit some obscure verse in order to declare, triumphantly, that it's a fulfilled prophecy. "Tyre was destroyed, but not all of it and not permanently, after a prolonged siege, and it's since gone on to become a thriving city; therefore the bible is right when it talks about a city left desolate after being swallowed up by the sea. It's uncanny!" (paraphrasing, obviously)

I'm sure I could use the same contortions to prove that the story of Jonah and the whale is some prophecy about the sinking of the Belgrano or something.

[Jaysyn]

Simply delusional. All that can be said.

As Minimalist pointed out to you in the earlier thread, all of your evidence is hearsay.

[chi pan]

It never ceases to amaze me how much some believers have to distort the facts to fit some obscure verse in order to declare, triumphantly, that it's a fulfilled prophecy. "Tyre was destroyed, but not all of it and not permanently, after a prolonged siege, and it's since gone on to become a thriving city; therefore the bible is right when it talks about a city left desolate after being swallowed up by the sea. It's uncanny!" (paraphrasing, obviously)

You are totally misrepresenting the situation. Minimalist was the one who brought this "obscure verse" up not me. He claimed that it was proof of an unfulfilled prophesy saying Tyre was not destroyed. I proved this wrong and your paraphrased quote (wherever you got it from) further proves this. I did not distort facts, Minimalist is guilty of that. I did in fact mentioned it was not completely destroyed as the part on the mainland (not the island) is a current city.

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Simply delusional. All that can be said.

As Minimalist pointed out to you in the earlier thread, all of your evidence is hearsay.

Hearsay?!?!?! I sourced my last information against minimalist!

[Cinjin]

Do you actually see God speaking in this psalm. Just because God inspires the words a man writes does not mean He approves of the actions of the characters in the story or in this case a song.

Please show me the contradiction in this psalm, I personally do not see one. Genesis and Psalm are both inspired writings, inspired by God himself.

What you're saying is that the bible is the perfect word of god, but that god doesn't necessarily approve of everything that's written in it.

Confusing yu think??
If EVERY word is inspired by god than why would he not approve of some of the actions that HE says are "blessed"?



ANSWER: You can't rationalize any of it. It's goat-herder idiocy. It's greasy sophistry and mind-bending verbal gymnastics. How can you possibly be so painfully stupid and utterly brainwashed?!?

You all absolutely refuse to open your eyes to what is directly in front of you.

David wrote this. If you know about David you would know ha had many moral struggles. That doesn't take away from morality of God.

So now god doesn't necessarily get the credit for his perfect word. That was David who fucked that part up right? God is still awesome and even though he inspired the complete and total word of god - David might have slipped some of his own bull shit in there and god just didn't catch it.

Ohh oh ... but make no doubt ... it's still entirely the inspired word of god.



Stupid piece of .......

[chi pan]

Do you actually see God speaking in this psalm. Just because God inspires the words a man writes does not mean He approves of the actions of the characters in the story or in this case a song.

Please show me the contradiction in this psalm, I personally do not see one. Genesis and Psalm are both inspired writings, inspired by God himself.

What you're saying is that the bible is the perfect word of god, but that god doesn't necessarily approve of everything that's written in it.

Confusing yu think??
If EVERY word is inspired by god than why would he not approve of some of the actions that HE says are "blessed"?



ANSWER: You can't rationalize any of it. It's goat-herder idiocy. It's greasy sophistry and mind-bending verbal gymnastics. How can you possibly be so painfully stupid and utterly brainwashed?!?

You all absolutely refuse to open your eyes to what is directly in front of you.

David wrote this. If you know about David you would know ha had many moral struggles. That doesn't take away from morality of God.

So now god doesn't necessarily get the credit for his perfect word. That was David who fucked that part up right? God is still awesome and even though he inspired the complete and total word of god - David might have slipped some of his own bull shit in there and god just didn't catch it.

Ohh oh ... but make no doubt ... it's still entirely the inspired word of god.



Stupid piece of .......

Let my try to help you understand what the bible is. What does it contain?
1. God's laws
2. God's spoken words.
3. Stories of events that happened at the time
4. Thoughts of the prophets.
David prayed for this but it doesn't make it right. Nor does it effect 1 or 2.

[Cinjin]

chimpan and godsdump enjoying a bible devotional together...



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