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Psalm 137:9
#91
RE: Psalm 137:9
Not only has Tyre stubbornly refused to sink beneath the waves as the "sovereign LORD" commanded it has actually gotten bigger.

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Alexander the Great's moll has now silted over so that Tyre is attached to the mainland.

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#92
RE: Psalm 137:9
(February 25, 2012 at 2:37 am)Cinjin Wrote:
(February 25, 2012 at 12:06 am)Godschild Wrote: See any difference between you and the Pharaoh that Moses dealt with. I do not, think I'm trying to be funny, think again.




And let me guess ... you see yourself as Moses. What a shock. A sheep sees himself as a fictional character and the man who disputes his idiocy as the nemesis of said fictional character. jesus tapdancing christ, it never gets old with you .... or rather it does!

Egyptians kept excellent records. Why is there no record of an adopted son of a pharaoh by the name of Moses leading 2 million Hebrew slaves out of Egypt? You'd think that such an event would've made some major mark in the hieroglyphs somewhere. And yet ... it doesn't exist ... ANYWHERE!

That of course is beside the point. You may call me Pharoah, or Judas, or Lucifer or any of the mythical bad guys of the Bible. Choose any villain from any book of fairy tales for that matter - it makes no difference to me - it only affirms what we all know ... You are as a pathetic and useless as your god is.

I'm not even close to being Moses. The Egyptians are famous for removing all the history of former Pharaohs, it has taken a very long time to find out that some Pharaohs ever lived.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#93
RE: Psalm 137:9
(February 25, 2012 at 8:54 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Not only has Tyre stubbornly refused to sink beneath the waves as the "sovereign LORD" commanded it has actually gotten bigger.

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Alexander the Great's moll has now silted over so that Tyre is attached to the mainland.

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The city exists, yes but it is changed slightly in location. I did in fact post I picture of the ruins that are still there. As for the ocean, it is possible that waves overtook them at some point. That is something I will also look into further. The bible did not say it would sink the city however I believe is important to remember just that waves of the ocean would overtake them and that does not require permanent sinking.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

-4th verse of the american national anthem
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#94
RE: Psalm 137:9
Quote:That is something I will also look into further.

It's your time - waste as much of it as you like.

Try, when you do, to remember the words of your supposed prophet.

Quote:14 I will make you a bare rock, and you will become a place to spread fishnets. You will never be rebuilt, for I the LORD have spoken, declares the Sovereign LORD.

Feel free to buy some real estate in Tyre.

http://www.ahlein.net/Lebanon/Tyre/Land/8086.aspx
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#95
RE: Psalm 137:9
(February 25, 2012 at 11:46 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:That is something I will also look into further.

It's your time - waste as much of it as you like.

Try, when you do, to remember the words of your supposed prophet.

Quote:14 I will make you a bare rock, and you will become a place to spread fishnets. You will never be rebuilt, for I the LORD have spoken, declares the Sovereign LORD.

Feel free to buy some real estate in Tyre.

http://www.ahlein.net/Lebanon/Tyre/Land/8086.aspx

I think it's also important for you to note that it was rebuilt but not in the same exact place.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

-4th verse of the american national anthem
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#96
RE: Psalm 137:9
ROFLOL Reach for it Chip, lol.
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#97
RE: Psalm 137:9
LOLOL...yeah, you could dislocate a shoulder trying to pick up that much bullshit, chippy.
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#98
RE: Psalm 137:9
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Since you posted this what is your take on what is said, do you see God's approval in this psalm. Do you actually see God speaking in this psalm. Just because God inspires the words a man writes does not mean He approves of the actions of the characters in the story or in this case a song.


OF course not - no god exists that can fulfill all the contradictory claims the bible makes for it - it is nonsense

However - if you really look through the old testament - there are several examples of situations in which the god actually mass murdered people =- especially innocent children - IF those things had actually happened.

THE passover is a great example of the mass murder of the first born of Egypt -=- who were almost (The exception would have been the Pharaoh) all completely innocent of any wrongdoing to deserve to be killed in the action. Especially - when you consider that in ANY population - approximately 21 percent of the people are UNDER age 5 - too young to be able to do anything deserving of being killed alone. And the killings were the act of the god in the fairy tale

THE great flood would be an example of such a mass murder on a grand scale - if it had happened as well. At the supposed time of the flood (claimed 2200-2300BC by the Jewish Calendar). At the time - about 5 million people existed on earth - over a million of them below age 5 . So - the killing all the people on earth would have been a massive mass murder - if it had happened

However - we also know that neither the flood nor the passover happened.

WE have continuous use of the Egyptian Language and continuation of their culture from before creation of the bible to today - so NO worldwide flood happened (Nubia - China - and other countries also spanned the time without incident)

Archeology has pretty much "demolished" the bible as a history
http://freethought.mbdojo.com/archeology.html

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#99
RE: Psalm 137:9
(March 4, 2012 at 9:10 pm)ThomM Wrote:




This has been discussed at length and the apologetics consider every evidence available to refute the great flood and other biblical accounts as post flood "evidence". Apparently, all dating methods, such as;

Acanthochronology
Amino acid dating
Appearance Event Ordination
Astronomical chronology
Biochronology
Dendrochronology
Fluorine absorption dating
Herbchronology
Historic paint analysis
Law of superposition
Marine isotope stage
Obsidian hydration dating
Optical dating
Optically stimulated luminescence
Orbital tuning
Oxidizable carbon ratio dating
Principle of faunal succession
Rehydroxylation dating
Skeletochronology
Thermoluminescence dating
Typology
Varnish microlamination
etc..

on one side are considered as fake science by apologetics/creationists since they all come to almost the same conclusion on the age of a particular item; with a few degrees of error.

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RE: Psalm 137:9
Quote:The famous battle of Jericho, with which the Israelites supposedly launched this campaign of conquest after wandering for decades in the desert, has been likewise debunked: The city of Jericho didn't exist at that time and had no walls to come tumbling down. These assertions are all pretty much accepted by mainstream archaeologists.

An important point from your article, Thom.

Chippy is off getting his Tyres rotated, apparently.
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