Suggestions for atheist framework

[KichigaiNeko]

I'm mostly upset because I'm now the 2nd newest account

Why should this be of concern to you??

Stop IT!!

And start posting!! tell us all about your interests ...how old you are... what you are studying...

Now get going!!

AnewT is of no real concern

[Nine]

I'm mostly upset because I'm now the 2nd newest account

Why should this be of concern to you??

Stop IT!!

And start posting!! tell us all about your interests ...how old you are... what you are studying...

Now get going!!

AnewT is of no real concern

*Salutes!*

Ima hijack this thread seems AnewT has vanished.

Im 19 Untill recently I was a competative sponored gamer on the Xbox so thats one of my interests still. Other than that I like to learn anything and everything i can get my hands on. I also like sending love hearts to people to see how they react its great fun!

I studied for two years at college but dropped out the month before the final exams so never got my full A-levels.. I did Psychology, Sociology and religious studies/Philosophy of religion. (I was doing well but freaked out and left when i should have just got on with it) Now im doing an evening course for social sciences so i can go to Uni in septemeber where i will be doing a degree in psychology

I think thats a good start

What are your interests? Job? Age?

[KichigaiNeko]

Moi??

I am a boring old fart... Single Mother of two. Eldest (Daughter) has just announced her life long dream to visit Siberia is to happen in June this year. Son has Asperger's Syndrome/ Autistic Spectrum Disorder (and quite frankly seems more stable than some "normal people" I've met) and is looking to get his own place.

Zen Badger and I are together we both ride Yamaha Fazers (he= 1000, me= 600) and we are still settling in to our new house.

My work history is just that...history..thanks to the GFC and continuing instability of the global market jobs are hard to come by everywhere..including here in Oz.

Australians are VERY lay back..(read ..we really don't care) It takes alot to get us going (bit like the Kiwis) and we would much rather enjoy life than worry about it...

Enough??

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Photo bombing this thread ...badly..


Zen, Me, Hypatia and 'The Lady Fazer' at Gingin Western Australia 2012.

[Nine]

Lovely to meet you.

I like that idea enjoying life rather than worrying about it.

[KichigaiNeko]

Lovely to meet you.

I like that idea enjoying life rather than worrying about it.

Then I would highly recommend learning to ride a motorcycle...up-front-and-personal introduction to Newtonian physics if ever there was... and it's FUN!!

"She'll be right mate "

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By the way..."Pics-or-it-Didn't-Happen"

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[Doubting Thomas]

I want to make a very superficial observation about this community. It seems you spend more time trying to convince each other of that God does not exist than working through issues of meaning with each other.

Well this is atheistforums.org. If you want a forum where they're not convincing each other that God doesn't exist, then go to christianforums.net. There they all convince each other that God does exist. And it's our right to bitch about religion here, since this is the purpose of the forum.

If you don't believe in God then fine, ignore us and the insecure idiots that call themselves Christians and work with each other to demonstrate the relevance of your philosophy.

I would love to ignore the idiots who call themselves Christians if they weren't working hard to try to force everyone else to live by their religious views and install religious beliefs into our government. Santorum comes to mind. I don't want to live in a Christian theocracy, so I'll fight them tooth & nail.

And as far as atheist philosophy, you'll find that there isn't really any. We all have our own beliefs & personal philosophy. The only thing which binds us together is not believing in any gods.

[Faith No More]

I like that idea enjoying life rather than worrying about it.

This is one of a few philosophies that helped me take servere depression to almost completely manageable.

[Abracadabra]

If you don't believe in God then fine, ignore us and the insecure idiots that call themselves Christians and work with each other to demonstrate the relevance of your philosophy.

I would love to ignore the idiots who call themselves Christians if they weren't working hard to try to force everyone else to live by their religious views and install religious beliefs into our government. Santorum comes to mind. I don't want to live in a Christian theocracy, so I'll fight them tooth & nail.

And as far as atheist philosophy, you'll find that there isn't really any. We all have our own beliefs & personal philosophy. The only thing which binds us together is not believing in any gods.

Well, not only that, but AndrewT himself is using the oldest evangelistic underhanded trick in the book to proselytize his religion. He's pretending to have atheist friends who are struggling to find meaning in their lives, and requesting that we offer 'atheistic philosophies' that provide an answer to a seemingly 'meaningless' secular existence.

The fundamental problem with AndewT's approach is that he seems to be assuming that if a creator exist that 'automatically' gives meaning to life.

But that is a flawed assumption right there. The existence of a creator would not automatically give 'meaning' to life. That very existence of that creator would FIRST have to have 'meaning'.

I mean, in from the Christian point of view, the "meaning" of life is that some supremely arrogant being called "God" is seeking eternal obedient slaves to serve only HIS WILL for some imagined eternity.

How is that meaningful?

Moreover, according to these scriptures the vast majority of souls that this "God" creates are cast into a place of eternal damnation and suffering.

How is that meaningful?

In fact, what purpose could it even serve?

It can't be a 'lesson' to the people who end up in hell because supposedly they never get out. So what's the point in teaching people a lesson if they are never going to benefit from it in a positive way?

The only other possible reason for it to exist is because it pleases God. So this God must be pleased by knowing that the vast majority of souls he creates are suffering eternally.

There is no "meaning" in the Christian myths.

It's all a bunch of utterly meaningless and absurdly stupid superstitions that could never possible be the desires or plans of any supposedly 'all-wise' benevolent God.

Even if such a God did exist, it would be far from wise, or benevolent.

So there is no "meaning" in Christianity or Catholicism anyway.

It's just utterly stupid nonsense that is completely devoid of anything meaningful.

[Faith No More]

I think the intention of the OP was to get us to try to come together to create an universal way of finding meaning while living as an atheist. Since it is an impossible task, but I assume not for the reasons he thinks, we will be left beffuddled about how to find meaning, therefore opening the door for conversion. That's when he/she sticks his/her foot in the door and begins to preach.

I see through your farce.

[Nine]

I think the intention of the OP was to get us to try to come together to create an universal way of finding meaning while living as an atheist. Since it is an impossible task, but I assume not for the reasons he thinks, we will be left beffuddled about how to find meaning, therefore opening the door for conversion. That's when he/she sticks his/her foot in the door and begins to preach.

I see through your farce.

I find people that think we must be completely lost without god funny... Then i feel sad that they feel there is no other reason to live other than to obey their god..