[split] YOU! - rational/irrational discussion.

[Edwardo Piet]

I will happily respond to your thread if you create it anyway...

Rather than debate with you here about it perhaps..?

EvF

[Ace Otana]

It took me 2 days to respond because I had alot on my mind.

Now reasonable and unreasonable means little to me. Since I never really think about it.

Now god is a concept as we all know and so is time and names. Time is a concept based on measurement, names are a concept based on identification and a means of calling out a name for a particular person who bares that name so to engage in comunications.

All three of these things are concepts but ony 2 of them are reasonable. Time is a concept on measurement, a way of measuring the distance of past and future and is also something we use to tell how long ago something happend. Names is a concept based on identification and a means to call out for a certain person(kind of like when a pilot uses frequencies to comunicate to differant unique ground stations and control towers.) Time is reasonable as it helps us measure both past and present. Names are reasonable for they give indentification.

Now god unlike the other 2 concepts has a completely differant reason for being thought up. God is a concept that was made to use to answer very complex questions and unexplained phenomena. Now the god concept tries to answer every very complex questions and it tends to answer them in a very simplistic way. "God did it" seems to be all you get and it does class as an answer but just not a very detail or complex way of answering a complex question. It's because of the simpistic ways and continued lack of evidence it ends up becoming unreasonable. To bring about a concept as god who exists outside our world, has all the power and has somehow created everything without the detailed answers to how, god the concept made for answering the on how we came about and being such a complex question would require evidence. It would be something unreasonable to believe due to the reason of the god claim. God is suppost to exist in form and create everything and its this claim that god emidiatly becomes unreasonable if there be no evidence to back this up. We do not need evidence of time or name because we know it's a method of measurement and ID. God is the concept based on an existing being. This requires evidence and without it would mean belief would be unreasonable.

We cannot know if someone lied about their name since it's a non-existant thing, it's just a way to id someone. A way to comune with that particular person with that name we have been told of. We will always run the risk of believing someone's name to be true or false. I do not see it as either reasonable or unreasonable, I just see it as a concept. It's a useful concept to seperate a person from the crowd.

Hope that helped. It took me a long while to come up with that.

Ace

[Edwardo Piet]

Good post Ace.

EvF

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My name is George.

Is my name George?

[Darwinian]

Welcome back George...

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Why thank you. Good to be back.