Help! Joseph of Arimathea.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

By stating he is random, it just means he was a regular Joe Shmoe who rarely were recorded in antiquity.

Sure;that makes it an assumption,unsupported by credible evidence.

[Polaris]

Except that Josephus did not release his first commentary on that part of history until 93/94 CE while it is said the latest Mark was written was 70 CE (it was most likely closer to 40-50 CE...much of the Bible was written prior to 67 CE). Even his commentaries on the Jewish Wars were not until 75 CE.

Why is it not surprising to find an ignorant Christian? Please direct me to the earliest manuscript we have of Mark's gospel. I'll make it easier for you, make it a partial or full manuscript of any of the four canonical gospels.

If you want to go down that foolish route, the earliest complete manuscript for the Antiquities of the Jews (this is the is from the 11th century. The earliest, complete Christian gospels predate that by centuries.

By stating he is random, it just means he was a regular Joe Shmoe who rarely were recorded in antiquity.

Sure;that makes it an assumption,unsupported by credible evidence.

Yeah...and who really cares?

[Phil]

Why is it not surprising to find an ignorant Christian? Please direct me to the earliest manuscript we have of Mark's gospel. I'll make it easier for you, make it a partial or full manuscript of any of the four canonical gospels.

If you want to go down that foolish route, the earliest complete manuscript for the Antiquities of the Jews (this is the is from the 11th century. The earliest, complete Christian gospels predate that by centuries.

And where is the earliest partial or full manuscript of either of the four canonical gospels? Are you one of those idiot Christians that either is too dumb to understand a direct question or just to afraid to answer?

edit: It was you who made the claim that Mark's gospel was written between 40 - 70 CE and it is your responsibility to provide the evidence that it was otherwise your claim is nothing more than an unsupported claim.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Yeah...and who really cares?

Here? I do; present bullshit as a credible argument and you WILL be challenged,either by me,or somebody else who does not suffer fools.

[Minimalist]

That a mythological figure is mentioned in another myth is not proof of his existence.

Apollo is mentioned in the Iliad. Both are mythological.

[Polaris]

If you want to go down that foolish route, the earliest complete manuscript for the Antiquities of the Jews (this is the is from the 11th century. The earliest, complete Christian gospels predate that by centuries.

And where is the earliest partial or full manuscript of either of the four canonical gospels? Are you one of those idiot Christians that either is too dumb to understand a direct question or just to afraid to answer?

edit: It was you who made the claim that Mark's gospel was written between 40 - 70 CE and it is your responsibility to provide the evidence that it was otherwise your claim is nothing more than an unsupported claim.

It's not the Gospel of Mark, but the Gospel of John had the same reference to Joseph. 14 million USD Gospel

Also here for the dating of the Gospel of Mark. Have fun.

[Phil]

And where is the earliest partial or full manuscript of either of the four canonical gospels? Are you one of those idiot Christians that either is too dumb to understand a direct question or just to afraid to answer?

edit: It was you who made the claim that Mark's gospel was written between 40 - 70 CE and it is your responsibility to provide the evidence that it was otherwise your claim is nothing more than an unsupported claim.

It's not the Gospel of Mark, but the Gospel of John had the same reference to Joseph. 14 million USD Gospel

Also here for the dating of the Gospel of Mark. Have fun.

Didn't ask for a dating apologetic. Apologetics don't fly here least of all with me. Did you understand what was asked for?

[Polaris]

It's not the Gospel of Mark, but the Gospel of John had the same reference to Joseph. 14 million USD Gospel

Also here for the dating of the Gospel of Mark. Have fun.

Didn't ask for a dating apologetic. Apologetics don't fly here least of all with me. Did you understand what was asked for?

That you want me to prove your fallacy? Yeah I understand. Not going to happen though. Get your history right next time.

[Minimalist]

I'll help him out...since he clearly does not understand the question, Phil...although he won't like the answer.

http://library.duke.edu/rubenstein/scrip...ripts.html

ca. A.D. 200 250 300 350 450

Matthew P45 B Sin.
Mark P45 B Sin. A
Luke P4,P45,P75 B Sin. A
John P66 P45,P75 B Sin. A
Acts P45 B Sin. A
Romans-Hebrews P46 B Sin. A
James-Jude P72,B Sin. A
Apocalypse P47 Sin. A

Nothing on any of the so called "gospels" prior to the 3d century and all of these with a P# are fragments. Irenaeus, writing c 185 is the first to assign the names of the so-called "gospels" and the Roman writer Celsus makes vague references to them, but not by name, 10 years before that.

Of course, we have no idea what any of these things actually said since we have nothing but the fragments and heavily edited and error-prone copies which came down to us from later times.

Xtians hate to hear that, of course.

The actual web site maintains the proper spacing on the time line which this board apparently cannot do.

[Phil]

Didn't ask for a dating apologetic. Apologetics don't fly here least of all with me. Did you understand what was asked for?

That you want me to prove your fallacy? Yeah I understand. Not going to happen though. Get your history right next time.

Ok douchebag, what fucking fallacy did I make?

edit: Thanks for admitting you are one of the many ignorant Christians that come through here thinking their apologetic bullshit provides evidence for their idiotic claims.