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definations
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definations
These are some terms I have found that seem to have taken on new meanings outside of the bible. I think it necessary to understand these terms when phrasing questions and reading explanations concerning God or the bible. I can provide a study for each of these words that underline their biblical usage, if anyone is interested I'll be happy to go over them with you line by line if need be.

Sin, Anything not in the Expressed Will of God.

Expressed Will of God, God's verbal, or written command; The Law of God.

Evil, A malicious intent to sin.
Not all sin is evil, but all evil is indeed sin.

Free Will, The ability to be outside of God's expressed will. In otherwords it is the ability to sin.
Free Will as outlined by the bible is not the ability to choose our own path. That is based on a Greek philosophy, and has some how been transposed to supposed biblical doctrine.

The Moral Law, The Law pertaining to how one is to live under God. Most of the 10 commandments are considered Moral law. The Moral Law is the only Part of OT law that gets carried over to the NT.

The Civil Law, Was written to the OT Jews that governed societal life. Marriages, Families responsibility, Slaves, Hospitality, housing, the family hierarchy, etc..

The Ceremonial Law, This aspect of OT Judaism governed the practices of the temple, The temple, priests, and all of the ceremonies, Holy day observances, and regulations their in. Only the Moral Law was carried over to Christianity. Why? Because Christ did not authorize the continuation of OT Judaism under the New covenant of atonement. Meaning rather than trying to seek righteousness through adherence we are to seek atonement. The law does not disappear, matter of fact it gets way more stringent. So rather than seek to find righteousness through works we must accept the gift of atonement He has provided.

Righteousness, the Perfect Measure or Standard of God.

True Righteousness, Without Sin.

Atonement, Forgiveness through the blood sacrifice offered by Christ.

Morality, Man's attempt to create his own personal version of righteousness that allows for the sins he or his society are willing to accept. Most versions of modern morality excludes the need for any type of atonement.

Self Righteousness, Is one's own personal version of righteousness.

Legalism, A doctrine that states one must strictly adhear to the law of God to obtain righteousness. (legalism is condemned by Christ and the rest of scripture.)

Christianity, God's only effort to reach out and atone for the sins of man, thus allowing a personal relationship possible.

Biblical Christianity, is defined by the source material that governs said Christian relationship with God.

Popular Christianity, is any version of the religion based on precepts not found in the bible.

Religion, Man's effort (ceremony, adherences, traditional observances and the like) to worship God. Religious efforts in of themselves are meaningless in God's economy. Even religious efforts based in christianity.
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#2
RE: definations
Drich Wrote:Christianity, God's only effort to reach out and atone for the sins of man, thus allowing a personal relationship possible.

Prove it. I dare you.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J.R.R Tolkien
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RE: definations
(June 1, 2012 at 1:35 pm)Drich Wrote: I think it necessary to understand these terms when phrasing questions and reading explanations concerning God or the bible.

Nah, not necessary... lets just forget about the bible and play some poker.
Cunt
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#4
RE: definations
Did you mean definition? Just wondering if defination is something I've never heard of. : o
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#5
RE: definations
I wonder what the definition of defination is.
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RE: definations
(June 1, 2012 at 1:35 pm)Drich Wrote: Sin, Anything not in the Expressed Will of God.
So let me get this straight. You see a sinner in distress. You want to be kind toward that person. However, this tribal god forbids you to help or comfort them. You do the right thing anyway and shower them with as much empathy and compassion as humanely possible. You've sinned and this god hates you.

The solution to the dilemma is obvious. This god can go fuck himself for eternity and the rest of us can live our one and only lives doing the right and decent thing.


Quote:Not all sin is evil, but all evil is indeed sin.
Wow that makes no sense.


Quote:Free Will, The ability to be outside of God's expressed will. In otherwords it is the ability to sin.
So "free will" is sin. Okay... Kind of already gathered that from your first argument.

The rest of your definitions don't interest me and are not worth responding to, except this:


Quote:Christianity, God's only effort to reach out and atone for the sins of man, thus allowing a personal relationship possible.
All the rest of the world's religions and theists disagree with you... yay! Why should I believe ANY of you?
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RE: definations
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.ph...Defination

Quote:Defination

A portmanteau of the words Definition and Defamation.

This is the act of going to the trouble of inaccurately defining a word on Urbandictionary just to make a private joke at the expense of a member of your extended social circle, who, since you'll have to go to the trouble of dragging them to a computer, telling them the Urbandictiony url to type in, and then telling them which is the one word out of thousands that personally mentions the name of the person to get any kind of reaction out of them, thus negating the possible humour from the act of the joke, (since this is like having to stop and explain a joke after telling it), and thereby confusing the issue for everyone else in the world who is obviously not either you and your two sniggering sychopantic hanger-ons who think this kind of thing is even remotely interesting or clever.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: definations
Definitions:

Sin:
Quote:Any act regarded as such a transgression, especially a willful or deliberate violation of some religious or moral principle.

Any reprehensible or regrettable action, behavior, lapse, etc.; great fault or offense: It's a sin to waste time.

Evil:
Quote:morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: evil deeds; an evil life.

harmful; injurious: evil laws.

characterized or accompanied by misfortune or suffering; unfortunate; disastrous: to be fallen on evil days.

due to actual or imputed bad conduct or character: an evil reputation.

marked by anger, irritability, irascibility, etc.: He is known for his evil disposition.

Freewill:
Quote:made or done freely or of one's own accord; voluntary: a freewill contribution to a political fund.

of or pertaining to the metaphysical doctrine of the freedom of the will: the freewill controversy.

Moral:
Quote: concerned with or relating to human behaviour, esp the distinction between good and bad or right and wrong behaviour: moral sense.
Adhering to conventionally accepted standards of conduct.
Based on a sense of right and wrong according to conscience: moral courage ; moral law
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#9
RE: definations
I know that Christies have a habit of defecating on things here... mainly themselves though. Tongue
Cunt
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RE: definations
(June 1, 2012 at 3:07 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
Quote:So let me get this straight. You see a sinner in distress. You want to be kind toward that person. However, this tribal god forbids you to help or comfort them.
You do not understand the purpose of identifying sin. It is not to regaurd yourself above another. The identification of sin serves one purpose. In that is shows all to be sinners. To segergate yourself from other sinners is an act of selfrighteousness.

Quote:[quote]Not all sin is evil, but all evil is indeed sin.
Wow that makes no sense.
Lying, is a sin. even to lie to save a life is still a sin. However it is not an act of Evil.


Quote:So "free will" is sin. Okay... Kind of already gathered that from your first argument.
It's the ablity to sin.

Quote:All the rest of the world's religions and theists disagree with you... yay! Why should I believe ANY of you?
You should believe anything you are not committed to explore.

(June 1, 2012 at 3:21 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Definitions:

Sin:
Quote:Any act regarded as such a transgression, especially a willful or deliberate violation of some religious or moral principle.

Any reprehensible or regrettable action, behavior, lapse, etc.; great fault or offense: It's a sin to waste time.

Evil:
Quote:morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: evil deeds; an evil life.

harmful; injurious: evil laws.

characterized or accompanied by misfortune or suffering; unfortunate; disastrous: to be fallen on evil days.

due to actual or imputed bad conduct or character: an evil reputation.

marked by anger, irritability, irascibility, etc.: He is known for his evil disposition.

Freewill:
Quote:made or done freely or of one's own accord; voluntary: a freewill contribution to a political fund.

of or pertaining to the metaphysical doctrine of the freedom of the will: the freewill controversy.

Moral:
Quote: concerned with or relating to human behaviour, esp the distinction between good and bad or right and wrong behaviour: moral sense.
Adhering to conventionally accepted standards of conduct.
Based on a sense of right and wrong according to conscience: moral courage ; moral law

Do you not understand what the purpose of this thread is?
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