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RE: Volume of Extra Water From the Flood
June 19, 2012 at 5:48 am
I'm taking my physical model of the Earth to be this sphere with a pole sticking out of it that is the height of Mt. Everest i.e. 8.8km from sea level. The water that already exists I'm assuming is below the surface of this sphere (where the surface represents sea level). The water that already exists is apparently 1.338 x 10^9 km^3. So it's just a matter of finding out the volume between the surface of the sphere and the top of the pole (if you accept my assumptions).
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RE: Volume of Extra Water From the Flood
June 19, 2012 at 10:29 am
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The thickness of flood water still is small compare to the diameter of the globe, so the volume of water can be approximated as a thin flat shell sheet equal to the surface area of earth (approximately 4X10^8 square Km) times thickness (approx 9 km), resulting in about 4X10^9 cubic km.
To summarize, the relationship between the amount of water on earth and the amount of water involved in Noah's flood is such that "you can't get there from here".
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RE: Volume of Extra Water From the Flood
June 19, 2012 at 10:53 am
(June 19, 2012 at 10:29 am)Chuck Wrote: The thickness of flood water still is small compare to the diameter of the globe, so the volume of water can be approximated as a thin flat shell sheet equal to the surface area of earth (approximately 4X10^8 square Km) times thickness (approx 9 km), resulting in about 4X10^9 cubic km.
To summarize, the relationship between the amount of water on earth and the amount of water involved in Noah's flood is such that "you can't get there from here".
Good way of working it out.
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RE: Volume of Extra Water From the Flood
June 19, 2012 at 10:55 am
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(June 19, 2012 at 12:53 am)cratehorus Wrote: God took all the water back
....... yeah it was that easy, pointing out faults in the bible is pointless, they'll either say it was "magic" or that the bible really meant something different
This is what is funny actually. They'll have no problem accepting that God created everything in existence in 6 days, out of nothing magically. They believe that God is omnipotent. This in mind, you'd think that when you present the logical problems of the flood (not enough water, where did it all go, how did you fit that many animals on the ark, etc.) they'd just explain them away with God's omnipotence, but they don't. For some reason they feel like that have to rationalize it. It's almost like, deep down, they know that it's completely insane.
(June 19, 2012 at 10:29 am)Chuck Wrote: The thickness of flood water still is small compare to the diameter of the globe, so the volume of water can be approximated as a thin flat shell sheet equal to the surface area of earth (approximately 4X10^8 square Km) times thickness (approx 9 km), resulting in about 4X10^9 cubic km.
To summarize, the relationship between the amount of water on earth and the amount of water involved in Noah's flood is such that "you can't get there from here".
Of course you also have to realize all the land and mountains decrease the amount of water needed, so it's quite non-rigorous, but it only serves to make a point. Even if you were extremely conservative and cut the number of your calculations in half, you still come up with an insane amount of water.
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RE: Volume of Extra Water From the Flood
June 19, 2012 at 11:02 am
I just love it when people start applying math to myth.
If we just ignore the fact it's completely absurd from start to finish.. you'll find the water required doesn't add up........
It's a little like ignoring the fact that superman has laser eyes, can survive space, bounce bullets but then sit and argue that his arms don't have the correct surface to air ratio to remain airbourne.
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RE: Volume of Extra Water From the Flood
June 19, 2012 at 11:30 am
They simply declare that before the flood there was no Mt. Everest. There, problem solved.
When you are dealing with simpletons and their magic book there is no problem that can't be solved by saying "Poof."
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RE: Volume of Extra Water From the Flood
June 19, 2012 at 12:07 pm
(June 19, 2012 at 11:02 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote: I just love it when people start applying math to myth.
If we just ignore the fact it's completely absurd from start to finish.. you'll find the water required doesn't add up........
It's a little like ignoring the fact that superman has laser eyes, can survive space, bounce bullets but then sit and argue that his arms don't have the correct surface to air ratio to remain airbourne.
Haha, true that. I just like going 'Let's suppose...'
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RE: Volume of Extra Water From the Flood
June 19, 2012 at 12:42 pm
(June 19, 2012 at 11:30 am)Minimalist Wrote: When you are dealing with simpletons and their magic book there is no problem that can't be solved by saying "Poof."
Oh, I am so quoting you in my sig line.
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RE: Volume of Extra Water From the Flood
June 19, 2012 at 3:22 pm
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(June 19, 2012 at 11:30 am)Minimalist Wrote: They simply declare that before the flood there was no Mt. Everest. There, problem solved.
When you are dealing with simpletons and their magic book there is no problem that can't be solved by saying "Poof."
Declare there was no flood and no god, and the problem is not only destroyed, but annihilated.
(June 19, 2012 at 10:55 am)libalchris Wrote: Of course you also have to realize all the land and mountains decrease the amount of water needed, so it's quite non-rigorous, but it only serves to make a point. Even if you were extremely conservative and cut the number of your calculations in half, you still come up with an insane amount of water.
Actually, the continents are topographically surprising flat, and the average elevation of all continents are less than 1 km. So the impact of land topography on the water needed to cover top of mt Everest is at most 2-3%. It would be insanely comical to discuss 2-3% accuracy when examing the rigor and precision of biblical cosmofartology.
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