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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Quote:Seriously? You only deny those things you know exists?
I'm saying you can't deny the existence of something you really don't believe exists. I'm not denying 'god', I've rejected the claim that he exists. That's all.
Quote:I disagree. There is a need for specifics, if fact that would solve the problem. There are billions of gods and goddesses. Your attention is focused upon 1 or two that allegedly don't exist while at the same time the generic term "god or gods" is used to define atheism.
Atheism simply means 'without' 'theism'. Theism = belief in god. A-theism = Without belief in god.
When I say I don't believe in 'god' I'm saying I don't believe some higher power, universe making prat exists. Nuff said.
Quote:Because it indicates a lack of knowledge of exactly what a god is. It isn't specific.
Total nonsense.
God is just a concept invented by very religious men. Seeing as I'm unconvinced that he/it's anything else.
Quote:A god doesn't have to be supernatural. A god can be human, mortal, an inanimate object.
Define these other gods and I'll tell you if I believe in them. 
Quote:Hmmm. You need to distinguish more accurately the difference between disagreement and dishonesty. I'm not dishonest just because I don't agree with you.
I think you're a liar based on what you've posted. The benefit of the doubt has just been retracted.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 4:18 pm
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(July 4, 2012 at 3:31 pm)The Theist Wrote: (July 4, 2012 at 3:12 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: Wow, you trolled with the exact same post here too:
http://www.rationalresponders.com/forum/31501
Theistard Troll has a nice ring to it don't you agree?
Fascinating, isn't it? Didn't you used to post on Friendly Atheist forum? Did they finally boot you for being a dick? It always tickles me when the atheists get so bent out of shape they start Googling my every word.
Of course, because a self identified troll is a dependable source of information.
I'm tickled that you even bother with this. Such threads like yours are only the, wait for it, billionth to be rehashed.
Bored now.
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 4:20 pm
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(July 4, 2012 at 4:04 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: I'm saying you can't deny the existence of something you really don't believe exists. I'm not denying 'god', I've rejected the claim that he exists. That's all.
Atheism simply means 'without' 'theism'. Theism = belief in god. A-theism = Without belief in god.
When I say I don't believe in 'god' I'm saying I don't believe some higher power, universe making prat exists. Nuff said.
But atheism doesn't work like that. It isn't a he it is a they. Atheism rejects the claim that a god or gods exist. Not exclusively Jehovah God.
(July 4, 2012 at 4:04 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: God is just a concept invented by very religious men. Seeing as I'm unconvinced that he/it's anything else.
Its just a word applied as a title to anyone or anything mighty or venerated in as much that it is attributed a might greater than the beholder.
(July 4, 2012 at 4:04 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Define these other gods and I'll tell you if I believe in them.
I already have defined the term God in general in English, ancient Hebrew and Greek, and I've named gods mentioned in the Bible. Jesus, Moses, the Judges of Israel. Here is another, the Sumerian King Tammuz. There are what, 16 humans that were called gods in the Bible.
(July 4, 2012 at 4:04 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: I think you're a liar based on what you've posted. The benefit of the doubt has just been retracted.
Shove it.
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 4:29 pm
The Theist Wrote:Moses used variations of the Hebrew term El, God, from a root meaning "strong: Mighty" in 1513 B.C.E. and you think that I, not atheism which came along thousands of years later and which questions those very writings, got the meaning wrong?
Woosh!
That's the sound of the point going right over your head...
News flash. Atheism didn't come along thousands of years later. It's been around as long as your god has.
The Theist Wrote:And I'm stupid?
Apparently so.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 4:32 pm
Quote:But atheism doesn't work like that. It isn't a he it is a they. Atheism rejects the claim that a god or gods exist. Not exclusively Jehovah God.
Last I checked....you don't get to redefine things. Atheism means without theism. Like it or go away.
Quote:Its just a word applied as a title to anyone or anything mighty or venerated in as much that it is attributed a might greater than the beholder.
Uh-huh. So you assign the word 'god' to a person or to an imaginary higher power that 'you' believe is mighty and all that bollocks. I see.
Quote:I already have defined the term God in general in English, ancient Hebrew and Greek, and I've named gods mentioned in the Bible. Jesus, Moses, the Judges of Israel. Here is another, the Sumerian King Tammuz. There are what, 16 humans that were called gods in the Bible.
Looked up the definition of 'god' and this is what I found -
Quote:1. the one Supreme Being, the creator and ruler of the universe.
2.
the Supreme Being considered with reference to a particular attribute: the God of Islam.
3.
( lowercase ) one of several deities, especially a male deity, presiding over some portion of worldly affairs.
4.
( often lowercase ) a supreme being according to some particular conception: the god of mercy.
5.
Christian Science . the Supreme Being, understood as Life, Truth, love, Mind, Soul, Spirit, Principle.
- Deity, creator, supreme being. Ain't that lovely. 
So I think you know what I'm talking about when I say I lack belief in 'god'. The popular definition of it.
Quote:Shove it.
Yeah, I know where you can shove your beliefs.....
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Quote:No it doesn't, atheists are only too obtuse to understand it.
And apparently you have been dismissed to the cesspool of inanity.
Farewell.
Suck jesus' dick when you see him.
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 4:36 pm
I sneezed, opened my eyes and there he was - gone. I think I have a new superpower.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 4:38 pm
That was Daystar. Ha! No wonder. That lying little toe-rag! Pah *Spits*.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 6:02 pm
(July 4, 2012 at 3:31 pm)The Theist Wrote: Fascinating, isn't it? Didn't you used to post on Friendly Atheist forum? Did they finally boot you for being a dick? I've never registered with any other atheist forum besides this one, you arsewipe. XD
Quote:It always tickles me when the atheists get so bent out of shape they start Googling my every word.
You flatter yourself Theistard.
Now for your final curtain call and the perfect song as the banhammer falls upon thy trolling head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1PBptSDIh8
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RE: The Irrational Nature Of Atheism - An Explanation Of God, Gods And Goddesses
July 4, 2012 at 8:09 pm
I didn't read through every post so this is a legitimate query, did anyone ask him to define his own personal beliefs and his reasons for having them?
I sincerely doubt they would of held up against speculation, would of been a golden oppurtunity to educate him on the importance of evidence.
Anyway, what an idiot.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred.
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