The morality of religion
July 8, 2012 at 2:49 pm
(This post was last modified: July 8, 2012 at 2:53 pm by Opsnyder.)
I was on russian atheist forum few mins ago.
Situation doesn't look good the muslim and christian terrorists are on rampage there.
Anyway atheists there seem to fail most at questions such as "Where universe come from" and "What does it mean to be moral for an atheist".
Well no matter where my morality comes from the thing is that the holy books are man made. Therefore ALL morality from religion comes from ancient dudes.
So an atheist decides himself what is good and what is bad.
In religion an ancient dude tells people what is good and bad.
As Sam Harris said the morality must be updated. We are not going anywhere by doing what ancient herdsmen are telling us to do without questioning it.
So basically admitting that books are man made defeats all religious morality argument altogether.
In both cases it was the human who created the moral values.
It's just that in religion people are doing what the boss(human) tells them to do.
So religious morality depends on the morality of the boss(human).
If the boss happens to be immoral the people are fucked.
No morality at all there. Just following orders. That's what nazi soldiers were doing.
What about origin of the universe those terrorists want us to explain where universe come from without explaining everything themselves.
Also they create god who is "beyond laws of physics" so you can't really argue against anything like that. Not to mention a of aggression from those theists.
Religion was always popular in my homeland so that's maybe why this is happening.
A lot of people also believe in curses you can impose on others and witchcraft and prediction future with magic. I mean WTF.
Situation doesn't look good the muslim and christian terrorists are on rampage there.
Anyway atheists there seem to fail most at questions such as "Where universe come from" and "What does it mean to be moral for an atheist".
Well no matter where my morality comes from the thing is that the holy books are man made. Therefore ALL morality from religion comes from ancient dudes.
So an atheist decides himself what is good and what is bad.
In religion an ancient dude tells people what is good and bad.
As Sam Harris said the morality must be updated. We are not going anywhere by doing what ancient herdsmen are telling us to do without questioning it.
So basically admitting that books are man made defeats all religious morality argument altogether.
In both cases it was the human who created the moral values.
It's just that in religion people are doing what the boss(human) tells them to do.
So religious morality depends on the morality of the boss(human).
If the boss happens to be immoral the people are fucked.
No morality at all there. Just following orders. That's what nazi soldiers were doing.
What about origin of the universe those terrorists want us to explain where universe come from without explaining everything themselves.
Also they create god who is "beyond laws of physics" so you can't really argue against anything like that. Not to mention a of aggression from those theists.
Religion was always popular in my homeland so that's maybe why this is happening.
A lot of people also believe in curses you can impose on others and witchcraft and prediction future with magic. I mean WTF.
