God loves the evil ones more than the good because he is the greatest sinner.

[Greatest I am]

God loves the evil ones more than the good because he is the greatest sinner.
This love of sinners is the hinge pin on which his benevolent qualities depend and without evil and sin, God could never expressed his benevolence and we would never know of God’s mercy, forgiveness, compassion and all his other positive attributes. Love, like faith, can only be expressed by actions and for God to show his love of sinners and his other positive attributes, evil, sin and sinners must exist to receive this love.

Before the earth was formed, God planned to have Jesus sacrificed, murdered in fact, for those of us who are sinners. That is all of us. Jesus’ sacrifice was to be God’s example of the greatest evil and sin from the point of view of all who are wise. It shows our greatest loss and evil if we were to do as God did. Those of us who are evil without knowing good will try to profit from this greatest evil. We are to venerate life. Not take it or try to profit from its death. Though shalt not kill or try to profit from it.

As above so below.

The fact that God created evil and sin is a given. He created all that is to those who believe he exists. He decides what is evil or not and therefore sets this as our standard. It is a human standard. God is man.

Have you forgotten that you are to be a God by emulating your heavenly father?
Sin by the thought of having your child killed or profiting from someone else’s doing so and repent as God did.

All fathers or parent will know that the greatest evil he can experience is to have his children die before he does. Having them killed is the greatest sin that any entity can do. Including God himself. As the Alpha, God knew he had to do this to also be the Omega. That is a part of the full standard of good and evil as declared by God as the law maker.

This shows that he loves sinners more than those of us who are supposedly good. Think of the prodigal son myth here. Those who know their evil ways will know this. Those who do not will think they are good and will accept this greatest evil for their salvation. A completely immoral act by all moral standards as set by God and man.

http://blog.ted.com/2008/09/17/the_real_differ/

God planned to have Adam and Eve expelled from the Garden of Eden and placed his beloved Satan near the tree of knowledge to insure that mankind ate of it. To make sure of this, God gave Satan the power to deceive all of us including Adam and Eve. As history shows, his plan was a great success. Dominion over the earth was Satan’s reward and gift from God for aiding in this great success. Evil is our lord and God as shown by God’s actions. Satan is not real of course but as the personification of evil, rules us. That is scripture.

The great value of sinners is that we set the standards for the good. Without us, we would all be living in what we would call hell instead of the paradise that we have created thanks to sin and the evils we do. This maintains the perfection of all that is. This explains why God loves the sinner and hates the sin and this is also why we are rewarded with the eternal paradise of hell. Remember that fire, in the beginning, was prized as the greatest purifying force known to us. It still is. Evolution and creation began in the fires of the big bang.

Martin Luther, A Gnostic Christian and founder of the Protestant movement may, have been aware of this. He said, “Be a sinner and sin strongly, but more strongly have faith and rejoice in Christ.” In this though we must remember what Jesus said. That to think of sin is to do it and hopefully learn morals from the experience. We are to sin that way and not do the actual act. There should not be a need to do so.

I invite you to follow the bible advice ---- 1 Thessalonians. 5:21; “Test all things".
If you will only give a dogmatic kneejerk denial of this theory then please ignore this post.

Please test the logic of what I have written even as it goes against you dogma and traditional thinking. God is good but just not the God you think he is. The root of all religions is the Great Arcanum and this theory fit’s it perfectly in my opinion.

http://www.sacred-sex.org/scriptures/jud...enant.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhKVElO8J...re=related

Offsprings and their great value are the driving force of all religions. Those who would profit from the murder or sacrifice of the offspring, archetypal Jesus, are knowing evil without knowing good and are thus evil in their hearts.

Christians. Most of you are basically good. Please stop doing evil and sinning in your thoughts of profiting from God’s sacrifice and murder of his innocent son. You are missing the moral of the myth and calling evil good. This thinking will send you to hell.

Regards
DL

[jonb]

This tortoise has been eating apples

[Drich]

God loves the evil ones more than the good because he is the greatest sinner.

Sin is defined as anything not in the expressed will of God. How can God be outside of what He wills to do?

This love of sinners is the hinge pin

This is true because all have sinned.

on which his benevolent qualities depend and without evil and sin, God could never expressed his benevolence and we would never know of God’s mercy, forgiveness, compassion and all his other positive attributes.

This is not true because these attributes were recorded as being the dynamic in the relationship God had with Adam in the Garden

Love, like faith, can only be expressed by actions and for God to show his love of sinners and his other positive attributes, evil, sin and sinners must exist to receive this love.

Not true, example again is found in the garden

Before the earth was formed, God planned to have Jesus sacrificed, murdered in fact, for those of us who are sinners. That is all of us. Jesus’ sacrifice was to be God’s example of the greatest evil and sin from the point of view of all who are wise. It shows our greatest loss and evil if we were to do as God did. Those of us who are evil without knowing good will try to profit from this greatest evil. We are to venerate life. Not take it or try to profit from its death. Though shalt not kill or try to profit from it.

What are you talking about?

As above so below.

The fact that God created evil and sin is a given. He created all that is to those who believe he exists. He decides what is evil or not and therefore sets this as our standard.

true

It is a human standard.

false

God is man.

false

Have you forgotten that you are to be a God by emulating your heavenly father?

look up the orginal word and tell me what type of 'god' the scripture referrs to.

Sin by the thought of having your child killed or profiting from someone else’s doing so and repent as God did.

what does this mean?

All fathers or parent will know that the greatest evil he can experience is to have his children die before he does.

The death of a child is a great and terriable thing, but the circumstances of said death is what makes the death evil. the mear act of dying is a simply fact of life.

Having them killed is the greatest sin that any entity can do. Including God himself. As the Alpha, God knew he had to do this to also be the Omega. That is a part of the full standard of good and evil as declared by God as the law maker.

So? for God and all who believe Death is not an end but our birth into eternity. It is only a 'Sin' to those who worship this life over God. Death is only the end to those who have not made plans for what comes after. Death is the gift of eternity. death is not a bad thing, unless you hate God.. then I could see why you fear it, and the comming judgement.

This shows that he loves sinners more than those of us who are supposedly good.

That's the whole point of this thread isn't it? you see yourself as 'good enough' not to need a sin sacerfice and now resent the fact that you are being made to admit that you are indeed a dirty menstral rag of a sinner like the restof us! Oh, that is great. you do not see the irony or the hyprocrisy here do you? in your screen name, in your thread, or in your proclaimation that you are 'good?" Here's a hint. you are suffering from the greatest sin any part of creation can commit. it is the same sin that God cast satan and 1/3 of the angels out from Heaven for. Pride. You believer yourself to be greater than your sum total. Understand you have been weighed Measured and desperatly been found wanting.

Think of the prodigal son myth here. Those who know their evil ways will know this. Those who do not will think they are good and will accept this greatest evil for their salvation. A completely immoral act by all moral standards as set by God and man.

The Progigal son is a great example here (but not as you have butchered the story) The Prodigal son also thought he was better than his father, so much so He pronounced the Father dead (to his father's face) Demanded what was own to him and left. You believe yourself to be the son that stayed, but in fact your pride tells us you are the one that has left.

God planned to have Adam and Eve expelled from the Garden of Eden and placed his beloved Satan near the tree of knowledge to insure that mankind ate of it.

Book chapter and verse that explains all of the premeditation as you have outlined it please.

To make sure of this, God gave Satan the power to deceive all of us including Adam and Eve. As history shows, his plan was a great success. Dominion over the earth was Satan’s reward and gift from God for aiding in this great success. Evil is our lord and God as shown by God’s actions. Satan is not real of course but as the personification of evil, rules us. That is scripture.

Scripture to back up this assertion as stated please.

The great value of sinners is that we set the standards for the good. Without us, we would all be living in what we would call hell instead of the paradise that we have created thanks to sin and the evils we do. This maintains the perfection of all that is. This explains why God loves the sinner and hates the sin and this is also why we are rewarded with the eternal paradise of hell. Remember that fire, in the beginning, was prized as the greatest purifying force known to us. It still is. Evolution and creation began in the fires of the big bang.

Martin Luther, A Gnostic Christian and founder of the Protestant movement may, have been aware of this. He said, “Be a sinner and sin strongly, but more strongly have faith and rejoice in Christ.” In this though we must remember what Jesus said. That to think of sin is to do it and hopefully learn morals from the experience. We are to sin that way and not do the actual act. There should not be a need to do so.

I invite you to follow the bible advice ---- 1 Thessalonians. 5:21; “Test all things".
If you will only give a dogmatic kneejerk denial of this theory then please ignore this post.

or

Please test the logic of what I have written even as it goes against you dogma and traditional thinking. God is good but just not the God you think he is. The root of all religions is the Great Arcanum and this theory fit’s it perfectly in my opinion.

I have and as you can plainly see you opening line of logic that establishes the nature of sin has failed, thus proving the rest of your manefesto to be angery rant about perserving one's pride.

Offsprings and their great value are the driving force of all religions. Those who would profit from the murder or sacrifice of the offspring, archetypal Jesus, are knowing evil without knowing good and are thus evil in their hearts.

Christians. Most of you are basically good. Please stop doing evil and sinning in your thoughts of profiting from God’s sacrifice and murder of his innocent son. You are missing the moral of the myth and calling evil good. This thinking will send you to hell.

now you are playing to the vanity and pride of Christians to help support you attempt at perservation.

[Zen Badger]

I invite you to follow the bible advice ---- 1 Thessalonians. 5:21; “Test all things".

[Greatest I am]

Drich

You indicate that God acted well in Eden.

Is it good for a God / parent to deny his children knowledge of almost everything?
You will know that good and evil applies to almost all knowledge.

You also indicate that God did not give Satan dominion over the earth.
If not then who has dominion here?

If not Satan, then the so called temptation of Jesus cannot have happened because Satan had nothing to tempt Jesus with. Right?

Let's see if we can chat on these before I deal with your other comments.

One last thing. Do you think it good justice and moral to punish the innocent and not the guilty?

Regards
DL

[Drich]

You indicate that God acted well in Eden.

Righteously.

Is it good for a God / parent to deny his children knowledge of almost everything?

Yes, until it is time to reveal this knowledge All parents do this. Or are you saying you would expose your 6 year old to sex?

You will know that good and evil applies to almost all knowledge.

How so? Perhaps you mean with in the constraints of popular morality, where the actions themselves have moral value.

You also indicate that God did not give Satan dominion over the earth.
If not then who has dominion here?

Where was this 'indicated?"

If not Satan, then the so called temptation of Jesus cannot have happened because Satan had nothing to tempt Jesus with. Right?

Which is why I could not have 'indicated' otherwise.

Let's see if we can chat on these before I deal with your other comments.

Agreed.

One last thing. Do you think it good justice and moral to punish the innocent and not the guilty?

Are any without sin? No. Then none are innocent none are free from guilt.

[Taqiyya Mockingbird]

@ Sin is defined as anything not in the expressed will of God. 


So, escalators and computers are sins. Check.

[Drich]

@ Sin is defined as anything not in the expressed will of God. 


So, escalators and computers are sins. Check.

Inorder to verify your 'check' all you have to do is provide Book Chapter and Verse that shows God's expressed will shows these things are a Sin..
(For God's expressed (as in written) will is His recorded LAW )
CheckMate

[Taqiyya Mockingbird]

I invite you to follow the bible advice ---- 1 Thessalonians. 5:21; “Test all things".