scientific fact of the Divine

[Taqiyya Mockingbird]

Still trying to figure out what steamingrancidpile is trying to say...

---

---

I am SOOOOOOOOOO stealing that!

[Minimalist]

such as radio, computer screens, etc... things that would be considered miracles in a different age

Yeah - but jesus didn't do that, did he? Instead it is claimed he drove out demons or walked on water or some other stupid shit.

IF he could have re-wired by stereo system that would have been something..... or at least a passable engineer.

[Cato]

IF he could have re-wired by stereo system that would have been something..... or at least a passable engineer.

Sorry Min, the poor bastard died with the tools of his own trade...wood and nails.

[Rhizomorph13]

Hmm, in case you missed it, the OP is a monistic pandeist, ergo not claiming miracles at all. It seems more that re is just saying that god is everywhere and explained by science as energy? I guess? All this talk of Jesus and divinity is rather strawman-y, but have at it; much easier than actually engaging in a rational discourse.

[FemmeRealism]

---

energy is eternal

proof; ∑E = Ek+Ep

Scientific Fact (1); Conservation of energy; energy cannot be created nor destroyed.

energy cannot be created

ergo by time reversal symmetry it is a scientific fact that energy never was created

ergo energy cannot be created, never was created, energy exists and yet cannot be destroyed,

ergo it is a scientific fact that energy is eternal. Q.E.D.


energy is omnipresent

proof; E = (ω h)/2

Scientific Fact (2); Vacuum energy or zero point energy; there is an amount of energy equal to (hв‹…П‰)/2 in every single point in space.

ergo it is a scientific fact that energy is everywhere present Q.E.D.


eternal and omnipresent energy is all-power-full

proof; P = ∫ ∇ E dv

Scientific Fact (3); Power is the transformation of energy over space and time.

All expressions of power are transformations of energy

ergo it is a scientific fact that eternal and omnipresent energy [S1 & S2] is all-power-full Q.E.D.


eternal and omnipresent energy is self-causal

proof;

Scientific Corollary (1); Every cause involves energy and every effect involves energy [S3]

ergo it is a scientific fact that eternal and omnipresent energy [S1 & S2] is self-causal or teleological Q.E.D.


eternal and omnipresent energy is self-descriptive

proof; S = -kBTr(ρ ln ρ)

Scientific Fact (4); Entropy is equal to the minimum amount of information needed (number of yes/no questions that need to be answered) in order to fully specify the microstate, given that we know the macrostate.

Describing is the act of making informational distinctions; in this case, collapsing the superposition creates information; endomorphic self-description.

ergo it is a scientific fact that eternal and omnipresent energy [S1 & S2] is self-descriptive. Q.E.D.


It is a scientific fact that the Divine exists.

Proof--It is a scientific fact that energy is eternal and omnipresent [S1 & S2]. It is a scientific fact that eternal and omnipresent energy is all-power-full, self-causal, and self-descriptive [S3, Sc1, & S4]. Eternal, omnipresent, all-power-full, self-causal, self-descriptive energy has the same properties as the Divine. By virtue of the identity of indiscernibles eternal, omnipresent, all-power-full, self-causal, self-descriptive energy is the Divine. Ergo it is a scientific fact that the Divine exists. Q.E.D.


resolved paradox of omnipotence

If the Divine could or did destroy itself, it would not be eternal, in other words, it would not be Divine. Power is defined as the transformation of energy, not the destruction of energy. The inability to destroy itself does not contradict being all-power-full. Therefore the Divine cannot destroy itself.

To create and to lift both involve the transformation of energy. The Divine is an infinite energy and a rock which has finite form cannot exist in an infinite substantial state. Therefore the Divine cannot create a rock that it cannot lift.

Therefore the Divine is natural.

Note; Resolving the omnipotence paradox as a scientific fact demonstrates the scientific proof has increased or clarified our understanding of the Divine.


resolved paradox of physical-spiritual

Define "physical";

By physical, does one mean 3-space local realism at no greater than the speed of light?

such that the following are non-physical (spiritual?);

(1) any spacial dimensions higher than 3

(2) non-locality and quantum entanglement

(3) superluminal speed and negative refractive index

Or by "physical" does one equivocate to mean "natural"?

The Divine is natural.

---

I'm so glad I'm not the only person who thinks about these things.

[Angrboda]

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

This is crazier than the Timecube stuff.

[Cato]

Apophenia, I'll see your $20 'lady of the night' and see you a shit load of dimes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbWg-mozGsU

[Cyberman]

I take those dimes and give you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6dm9rN6oTs?rel=0

which by a staggering coincidence is not only more of a subtle calming flow, but actually has more science going on. Not bad for such a short scene.

[Reforged]

This is crazier than the Timecube stuff.

Or hair on an icon legendary for his baldness. -.-