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scientific fact of the Divine
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scientific fact of the Divine
energy is eternal

proof; ∑E = Ek+Ep

Scientific Fact (1); Conservation of energy; energy cannot be created nor destroyed.

energy cannot be created

ergo by time reversal symmetry it is a scientific fact that energy never was created

ergo energy cannot be created, never was created, energy exists and yet cannot be destroyed,

ergo it is a scientific fact that energy is eternal. Q.E.D.


energy is omnipresent

proof; E = (ω h)/2

Scientific Fact (2); Vacuum energy or zero point energy; there is an amount of energy equal to (hв‹…П‰)/2 in every single point in space.

ergo it is a scientific fact that energy is everywhere present Q.E.D.


eternal and omnipresent energy is all-power-full

proof; P = ∫ ∇ E dv

Scientific Fact (3); Power is the transformation of energy over space and time.

All expressions of power are transformations of energy

ergo it is a scientific fact that eternal and omnipresent energy [S1 & S2] is all-power-full Q.E.D.


eternal and omnipresent energy is self-causal

proof;

Scientific Corollary (1); Every cause involves energy and every effect involves energy [S3]

ergo it is a scientific fact that eternal and omnipresent energy [S1 & S2] is self-causal or teleological Q.E.D.


eternal and omnipresent energy is self-descriptive

proof; S = -kBTr(ρ ln ρ)

Scientific Fact (4); Entropy is equal to the minimum amount of information needed (number of yes/no questions that need to be answered) in order to fully specify the microstate, given that we know the macrostate.

Describing is the act of making informational distinctions; in this case, collapsing the superposition creates information; endomorphic self-description.

ergo it is a scientific fact that eternal and omnipresent energy [S1 & S2] is self-descriptive. Q.E.D.


It is a scientific fact that the Divine exists.

Proof--It is a scientific fact that energy is eternal and omnipresent [S1 & S2]. It is a scientific fact that eternal and omnipresent energy is all-power-full, self-causal, and self-descriptive [S3, Sc1, & S4]. Eternal, omnipresent, all-power-full, self-causal, self-descriptive energy has the same properties as the Divine. By virtue of the identity of indiscernibles eternal, omnipresent, all-power-full, self-causal, self-descriptive energy is the Divine. Ergo it is a scientific fact that the Divine exists. Q.E.D.


resolved paradox of omnipotence

If the Divine could or did destroy itself, it would not be eternal, in other words, it would not be Divine. Power is defined as the transformation of energy, not the destruction of energy. The inability to destroy itself does not contradict being all-power-full. Therefore the Divine cannot destroy itself.

To create and to lift both involve the transformation of energy. The Divine is an infinite energy and a rock which has finite form cannot exist in an infinite substantial state. Therefore the Divine cannot create a rock that it cannot lift.

Therefore the Divine is natural.

Note; Resolving the omnipotence paradox as a scientific fact demonstrates the scientific proof has increased or clarified our understanding of the Divine.


resolved paradox of physical-spiritual

Define "physical";

By physical, does one mean 3-space local realism at no greater than the speed of light?

such that the following are non-physical (spiritual?);

(1) any spacial dimensions higher than 3

(2) non-locality and quantum entanglement

(3) superluminal speed and negative refractive index

Or by "physical" does one equivocate to mean "natural"?

The Divine is natural.
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RE: scientific fact of the Divine
Who said what now?
Cunt
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RE: scientific fact of the Divine
If anything, this disproves anything divine. :/
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RE: scientific fact of the Divine
(July 15, 2012 at 2:17 pm)Annik Wrote: If anything, this disproves anything divine. :/

Did you mean to say it disproves the existence of theistic gods?
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RE: scientific fact of the Divine
Quote:Therefore the Divine is natural.

Where have I seen this kind of stupidity before......

Oh, yeah..............

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RE: scientific fact of the Divine
(July 15, 2012 at 2:34 pm)subtlecalmingflow Wrote:
(July 15, 2012 at 2:17 pm)Annik Wrote: If anything, this disproves anything divine. :/

Did you mean to say it disproves the existence of theistic gods?

If matter cannot be created or destroyed, then why do you even need a god? A god that creates matter in the universe and also destroys it? Gods rock against these laws, they don't flow with them.
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RE: scientific fact of the Divine
(July 15, 2012 at 2:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Therefore the Divine is natural.

Where have I seen this kind of stupidity before......

Oh, yeah..............

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a 'miracle' is something that is not understood

such as radio, computer screens, etc... things that would be considered miracles in a different age

(July 15, 2012 at 2:39 pm)Annik Wrote:
(July 15, 2012 at 2:34 pm)subtlecalmingflow Wrote: Did you mean to say it disproves the existence of theistic gods?

If matter cannot be created or destroyed, then why do you even need a god? A god that creates matter in the universe and also destroys it? Gods rock against these laws, they don't flow with them.

the Divine cannot be created or destroyed

creating atoms doesn't create energy/matter

do you know of any gods that claim to create or destroy energy?
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RE: scientific fact of the Divine
(July 15, 2012 at 2:42 pm)subtlecalmingflow Wrote: creating atoms doesn't create energy/matter

LOLWUT?
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RE: scientific fact of the Divine
All you have done is made the claim that energy exists and described some of its attributes. You then ignore all attributes given to divinity that aren't like energy to invoke a lack of discernment. Pitiful.
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RE: scientific fact of the Divine
(July 15, 2012 at 3:04 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(July 15, 2012 at 2:42 pm)subtlecalmingflow Wrote: creating atoms doesn't create energy/matter

LOLWUT?

This. This exactly. Lol
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