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Signs/miracles sent only to cause fear?
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RE: Signs/miracles sent only to cause fear?
September 23, 2012 at 7:55 pm
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2012 at 7:59 pm by Rayaan.)
RE: Signs/miracles sent only to cause fear?
September 23, 2012 at 7:58 pm
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2012 at 8:01 pm by Reforged.)
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred. RE: Signs/miracles sent only to cause fear?
September 23, 2012 at 8:24 pm
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2012 at 8:31 pm by Mystic.)
(September 23, 2012 at 7:55 pm)Rayaan Wrote: Well, the idea that signs were sent only as a warning (or to cause fear) does not negate the idea that they were sent as a manifestation of the truth, or for the disbelievers to know the truth. That is if and only if the purpose of sending proofs is to cause fear. Quote:Therefore, in my opinion, fear, goodness, and justice go hand-in-hand and they are not necessarily mutually exclusive. But in this case, it's not only that they are going to hand to hand, it's that motive of worshiping God, the motive of doing good, the motive of rising up for justice, the motive for adopting virtues....is simply out of fear. This would also mean the motive to hope and love, should be all out of fear. Everything God wants should be at the end with the Messengers should be out motive of fear. RE: Signs/miracles sent only to cause fear?
September 23, 2012 at 11:45 pm
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2012 at 11:48 pm by Mystic.)
The syllogism is as follows:
Signs are sent to provides proofs for Messengers. Messengers are proven to be followed. They are to be followed so that people can rise up for justice, be brought of darkness to light, and embody virtues. Therefore Signs are sent for more then causing fear. Now for it be only sent for fear....either the purpose of rising up for justice, being virtuous, moving from darkness to light, is all for fear or that fear is suppose to be the underlying motive for all that. It cannot simply just be a factor, but must be the motive. But both of these notions are absurd and contradict Quran. For example, hope in God, wanting to please him, these are suppose to be motives not simply out of fear. Also, the Quran has the goal of being purified is to be make it to the state of appreciation. Is appreciation something that should be motivated by simply fear?
What if "messengers" are nothing more than opportunistic con men??
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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