Atheists= intelligent?

[leo-rcc]

So in my opinion as an atheist you can say that you believe that this or other rational thinking (scientific) theory is right or wrong but you can not say that you have faith without religion because they are one and the same thing.

What belongs to Stalin he thought of himself as a Genius of humanity ,and was in fact hailed as such in the Soviet Union and by commies abroad ,he was in fact a smart guy who outbrained his colleagues but his faith or anti-faith believes are by long thrown to the dustbin of history.

So what would you call someone like Stalin or a much milder example of him if this dogma that he imposed was not faith based nor was it religious?
Would you call it superstition?
What would you call it?

If this issue bothers you I would recommend to read the book published some 2-3 years ago "The court of the red Tsar " by Simon Sebag Montefiore.
I would add from my close knowledge of that issue that Stalin was an atheist.Atheism was thaught in all schools beginning with the kindergarten and Darwinism was in high esteem but only in the field if biology in it's original version.
The soviets did not accept the theory of genetics saying,stupidly,that if the genes determine the behaviour of man then the capitalists will say that the poor are born poor and the rich are rich due to genes so that the revolutionary struggle between classe makes no sense.
But beside that stupidity which kept back Russian science for about 30 years,Atheism was part of soviet official ideology and intensely promoted by education and mass media.
Religion was not officially banned but a member of the Party caught visting a church or a synagogue was exposed to severe consequences.

I can only agree with everything you have written there. It is exactly how it was.

[S_Truth]

Can someone answer my questions Please?

[Edwardo Piet]

Even stalin, I just did some research and he even killed people while robbing. So how can he be seen as good or bad, he was also ruthless person. In his mind it was good but others might see it as bad, but really does it matter if its one or the other if the end result is death and can you please answer the question, why are we born?

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Yes, perhaps if he genuinely thought he was totally rightous and was totally ignorant of it with a kind of blind anti-faith faith of leninist marxist, then perhaps you could concieve that this was just pure ignorance. Why are we born? Because our parents chose to have sex and they conceived of us whether intentional or not, planned or unplanned. If you mean why does life exist in the first place? There is almost certainly no reason behind it and this should be more of a 'How?' question rather than a 'Why?' question. Us humans have just evolved to think there's a purpose to anything, when there isn't, it is probably true that only conscious beings such as ourselves can have a "purpose" as we define it.

Well atheist is a blind belief system because you do good for no reason. The end result is death for everyone and atheist believe doing good for no reason. To say I do good for another is just pointless because even that person dies at the end and his doing good is pointless as your own.

Atheist is a blind belief system?? Its the opposite. Atheists do good for no reason? What do you mean? You do what you think is right rather than just blindly following a load of superstitious nonsense. So thats the opposite of a blind belief system. Its the opposite of faith.
What the hell? Seriously, to do good for another person is poitnless because they're going to die anyway and so also their good was pointless because that person was going to die anyway?! I've already explained that of course doing good isn't an objective thing and its NOT all about waiting in a queue for the afterlife, whether inacitve or active during the queue, good morals is not about posponing your life for something that almost certainly doesn't exist! Its the opposite, its about caring about the living and dying! not the dead!

[S_Truth]

Even stalin, I just did some research and he even killed people while robbing. So how can he be seen as good or bad, he was also ruthless person. In his mind it was good but others might see it as bad, but really does it matter if its one or the other if the end result is death and can you please answer the question, why are we born?

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Yes, perhaps if he genuinely thought he was totally rightous and was totally ignorant of it with a kind of blind anti-faith faith of leninist marxist, then perhaps you could concieve that this was just pure ignorance. Why are we born? Because our parents chose to have sex and they conceived of us whether intentional or not, planned or unplanned. If you mean why does life exist in the first place? There is almost certainly no reason behind it and this should be more of a 'How?' question rather than a 'Why?' question. Us humans have just evolved to think there's a purpose to anything, when there isn't, it is probably true that only conscious beings such as ourselves can have a "purpose" as we define it.

Well atheist is a blind belief system because you do good for no reason. The end result is death for everyone and atheist believe doing good for no reason. To say I do good for another is just pointless because even that person dies at the end and his doing good is pointless as your own.

Atheist is a blind belief system?? Its the opposite. Atheists do good for no reason? What do you mean? You do what you think is right rather than just blindly following a load of superstitious nonsense. So thats the opposite of a blind belief system. Its the opposite of faith.
What the hell? Seriously, to do good for another person is poitnless because they're going to die anyway and so also their good was pointless because that person was going to die anyway?! I've already explained that of course doing good isn't an objective thing and its NOT all about waiting in a queue for the afterlife, whether inacitve or active during the queue, good morals is not about posponing your life for something that almost certainly doesn't exist! Its the opposite, its about caring about the living and dying! not the dead!

Ultimately why are we born if we die at the end. There is no point of being born then. Throughout our lives we have set goals first learn this then that then go on to be this and so on, but what is the ultimate goal of life? If its just to die then all the stuff inbetween do not matter and have no meaning, So really an atheist life has no mean to it. And what atheist try to live off is meaning and facts but the ultimate fact they do not have and one comes to say for an atheist life is meaningless.

Ultimately atheist is a blind faith because your good is for no reason because at the end you die. This good has no ultimate reason to be practiced. This Good is just following a mind that leads to no where and even our mind is limited so really our faith and reasoning in our mind leads us no where, which is the ultimate faith that our mind tells us we are doing right, but ultimately since our thinking is limited we are not 100% we are right. This uncertainty leaves us vulnerable and leaves an emptiness in the atheist. All of life’s successes were for nothing. To say others benefit from your successes is false because ultimately they end up at the same place as you no matter how successful they are and that is dead and no where.

[leo-rcc]

It is obvious you have a different idea about atheism than I do. To me the meaning of life is life itself. But atheism has no philosophical background or motivation behind it. It just means not believing in supernatural deities.

[Edwardo Piet]

Even stalin, I just did some research and he even killed people while robbing. So how can he be seen as good or bad, he was also ruthless person. In his mind it was good but others might see it as bad, but really does it matter if its one or the other if the end result is death and can you please answer the question, why are we born?

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Yes, perhaps if he genuinely thought he was totally rightous and was totally ignorant of it with a kind of blind anti-faith faith of leninist marxist, then perhaps you could concieve that this was just pure ignorance. Why are we born? Because our parents chose to have sex and they conceived of us whether intentional or not, planned or unplanned. If you mean why does life exist in the first place? There is almost certainly no reason behind it and this should be more of a 'How?' question rather than a 'Why?' question. Us humans have just evolved to think there's a purpose to anything, when there isn't, it is probably true that only conscious beings such as ourselves can have a "purpose" as we define it.

Well atheist is a blind belief system because you do good for no reason. The end result is death for everyone and atheist believe doing good for no reason. To say I do good for another is just pointless because even that person dies at the end and his doing good is pointless as your own.

Atheist is a blind belief system?? Its the opposite. Atheists do good for no reason? What do you mean? You do what you think is right rather than just blindly following a load of superstitious nonsense. So thats the opposite of a blind belief system. Its the opposite of faith.
What the hell? Seriously, to do good for another person is poitnless because they're going to die anyway and so also their good was pointless because that person was going to die anyway?! I've already explained that of course doing good isn't an objective thing and its NOT all about waiting in a queue for the afterlife, whether inacitve or active during the queue, good morals is not about posponing your life for something that almost certainly doesn't exist! Its the opposite, its about caring about the living and dying! not the dead!

Ultimately why are we born if we die at the end. There is no point of being born then. Throughout our lives we have set goals first learn this then that then go on to be this and so on, but what is the ultimate goal of life? If its just to die then all the stuff inbetween do not matter and have no meaning, So really an atheist life has no mean to it. And what atheist try to live off is meaning and facts but the ultimate fact they do not have and one comes to say for an atheist life is meaningless.

Ultimately atheist is a blind faith because your good is for no reason because at the end you die. This good has no ultimate reason to be practiced. This Good is just following a mind that leads to no where and even our mind is limited so really our faith and reasoning in our mind leads us no where, which is the ultimate faith that our mind tells us we are doing right, but ultimately since our thinking is limited we are not 100% we are right. This uncertainty leaves us vulnerable and leaves an emptiness in the atheist. All of life’s successes were for nothing. To say others benefit from your successes is false because ultimately they end up at the same place as you no matter how successful they are and that is dead and no where.

It seems as though you're worried about not having a purpose set for you. That you can't trust your own judgement/don't believe others can. And you're worried about not having an ultimate purpose. I am not.
Also, what matters more? The truth? Or to go along craving for an ultimate purpose even if you understand that there isn't one?

[S_Truth]

It is obvious you have a different idea about atheism than I do. To me the meaning of life is life itself. But atheism has no philosophical background or motivation behind it. It just means not believing in supernatural deities.

Atheism meaning of life being life itself is meaningless, because there is no ultimate acheivement, just like i said in my above post. Also one describes something supernatural because we cannot understand it; it is out of our realm of thinking so we call it supernatural. But really is it supernatural because what we know is not everything. Once we know everything then we can call something supernatural otherwise you are limiting your thinking ability. And an atheist strives for to understand the world more, but without a ultimate reason to know these why's and how's.

[leo-rcc]

Yep I was right, you have absolutely no idea what an atheist is.

[S_Truth]

Even stalin, I just did some research and he even killed people while robbing. So how can he be seen as good or bad, he was also ruthless person. In his mind it was good but others might see it as bad, but really does it matter if its one or the other if the end result is death and can you please answer the question, why are we born?

---

Yes, perhaps if he genuinely thought he was totally rightous and was totally ignorant of it with a kind of blind anti-faith faith of leninist marxist, then perhaps you could concieve that this was just pure ignorance. Why are we born? Because our parents chose to have sex and they conceived of us whether intentional or not, planned or unplanned. If you mean why does life exist in the first place? There is almost certainly no reason behind it and this should be more of a 'How?' question rather than a 'Why?' question. Us humans have just evolved to think there's a purpose to anything, when there isn't, it is probably true that only conscious beings such as ourselves can have a "purpose" as we define it.

Well atheist is a blind belief system because you do good for no reason. The end result is death for everyone and atheist believe doing good for no reason. To say I do good for another is just pointless because even that person dies at the end and his doing good is pointless as your own.

Atheist is a blind belief system?? Its the opposite. Atheists do good for no reason? What do you mean? You do what you think is right rather than just blindly following a load of superstitious nonsense. So thats the opposite of a blind belief system. Its the opposite of faith.
What the hell? Seriously, to do good for another person is poitnless because they're going to die anyway and so also their good was pointless because that person was going to die anyway?! I've already explained that of course doing good isn't an objective thing and its NOT all about waiting in a queue for the afterlife, whether inacitve or active during the queue, good morals is not about posponing your life for something that almost certainly doesn't exist! Its the opposite, its about caring about the living and dying! not the dead!

Ultimately why are we born if we die at the end. There is no point of being born then. Throughout our lives we have set goals first learn this then that then go on to be this and so on, but what is the ultimate goal of life? If its just to die then all the stuff inbetween do not matter and have no meaning, So really an atheist life has no mean to it. And what atheist try to live off is meaning and facts but the ultimate fact they do not have and one comes to say for an atheist life is meaningless.

Ultimately atheist is a blind faith because your good is for no reason because at the end you die. This good has no ultimate reason to be practiced. This Good is just following a mind that leads to no where and even our mind is limited so really our faith and reasoning in our mind leads us no where, which is the ultimate faith that our mind tells us we are doing right, but ultimately since our thinking is limited we are not 100% we are right. This uncertainty leaves us vulnerable and leaves an emptiness in the atheist. All of life’s successes were for nothing. To say others benefit from your successes is false because ultimately they end up at the same place as you no matter how successful they are and that is dead and no where.

It seems as though you're worried about not having a purpose set for you. That you can't trust your own judgement/don't believe others can. And you're worried about not having an ultimate purpose. I am not.
Also, what matters more? The truth? Or to go along craving for an ultimate purpose even if you understand that there isn't one?

As everyone should be thinking what is the ultimate purpose in life. In everything else there is so why not Lifes big ultimate goal? This is where atheists fail to understand and this is why i am not an atheist and am searching for the Truth. Life must have an ultimate goal and it's just some are to scared to discover it or it would mean proving there whole way of life is wrong and this scares a person. But I have gone to look beyond this point in my life and said the ultimate life goal does exist, I just have to find it, just like i found what i want to do in life. This is what I have come to tell people and will open up peoples minds to never say there is nothing to life but to die. Lastly, life is not about just to live because this has no meaning.

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Yep I was right, you have absolutely no idea what an atheist is.

An atheist is a person who does not believe in God.

[leo-rcc]

So what?

And no, we don believe in any god or gods.