Interview

[Cyberman]

Say what?! hock: I do hope you are feeling better and that you are on the mend.

Wait, what? Everything OK?

Thank you. Yes, it was a little more dramatic and drawn out than I expected, but things are getting back to what passes for normal now and quite quickly as well. I was thinking of posting about it actually, it's a quite a long story though.

[Faith No More]

If you want to share, I would be willing to read it no matter how long of a story it is.

[IATIA]

How fucked up do you have to be to get thrown out of any xtian church?

My Mom was excommunicated twice.

As to the thread, I take no issue with the proposed use. The more people aware of the truths, the more that may jump off the fence.

Of course, in reality, cherry picking will be invoked to subdue our points in favor of Drich's.

[thesummerqueen]

Do tell, Stimbo, and Faith No More, that is a bangin' avatar. I love that painting.

[Cyberman]

Okay, all done: http://atheistforums.org/thread-15428.html

Plus, I too like that painting, Faith. Nice one.

[KichigaiNeko]

Okay, all done: http://atheistforums.org/thread-15428.html

Plus, I too like that painting, Faith. Nice one.

You WILL have these "little" adventures won't you Stimbo?

Glad you are feeling Ok now

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Further to the 'Drich issue' I am thinking that perhaps he had better NOT use this forum as a source of information for his "interview". As has been pointed out, his posts are tending to disclose a disingenuous, manipulative and trollish personality.

[Drich]

I'm upset because I actually thought a little better of you and it was dashed when you refused to come off as intelligent as you are capable of seeming because it somehow, in your mind, makes us feel better to belittle your spelling.

Their in lies the problem. You look to window dressing and what what 'seems' right in order to judge content as intelligent, rather than truly judging actual content. You genuinly seem upset because i have denied you the oppertunity to judge me and my work soley based on the superfical medeian you have deemed to be of great importance.

Please excuse me, but I find it insulting that you should think anyone on here needs to have such a ridiculous mode of insult in order to feel better about themselves

I haven't promoted anything, nor have I forced any of you to comment on my personal short commings. I simply made no effort to mask or appologise for my short commings. That makes any comments made "A ridiculous mode of insult in order to feel better about themselves." which seem to run contary to accuratly spelled gramatically correct statement.
I did not make anyone insult me, I just gave them oppertunity. The fact that insults abound on this website proves that there are those on this web site who need this oppertunity. Why should they be denied the oppertunity if they are in a place to need this?

(see? that is how you judge another persons work. Your spelling and grammar did not lend itself in any way to the accuracy of the statement you have provided. your work was soley based on content alone.)

- and please believe me when I say that it's merely a lazy way of picking at you because no atheist here, and it would seem at least one former religious person, doesn't buy your arguments. We've already said what we needed to against them, whether you think they've been rebutted or not, and this is bored banter at this point.

Then simply stop responding to them. i will not hound you for dropping a topic.

I don't believe in your Christ because I was fortunate enough to be born a Jew and found the concept ridiculous when I was 5. When I was 10, I realized there was no god, so I certainly wasn't going to believe in your messiah. Your misspelled words annoy the fuck out of me, and I gave you polite advice on how to fix it.

see the paragraph above the last one.

If you don't feel like it's worth doing, then your estimation goes down in my eyes but it's no snot out of my nose. I only got irritated at you when you made the excuse that you do it to "save time" and to make us feel better.

What would be an acceptable reason for the misspellings and bad grammar? Would the fact that i simply did not know any better appease you? That my grammar and spelling truly reflected my intellegence level? That you thought you had me figured out, and could look down on me and dismiss me anytime you had you back against the wall?

Most of us on here work in some intellectual capacity and you're not going to make us feel better or convince us of anything in the slightest by making yourself seem weaker.

You completely missunderstand don't you?
All I have provided is an open oppertunity for those who seek to exploit a perceived weakness in another, a planned outlet/path for these people to follow. If you simply climbed down off of your high horse long enough to just randomly sample the last 6 months or so worth of threads/follow up postings, by your peers. you would see that some, not all take advantage of this perceived weakness. Some from the on set of my opening post, and others when they need away to dismiss what their 'logical arguements' have failed to do.

Again I have not forced any of you to do anything. Those of you who have any true intergerity (such as yourself) do not take advantage of the weakness I have purposly left exposed. Those who do not have the outlet they need. I understand when dealing in hot botton topics that people keep close to their hearts it must be a give and take. I take broken and misrepersented theological logic and I give a solid repersentation of Scripture. For some this is not enough. Because i have taken something personal, they want their pound of flesh as well. So for them I offer a true peice of myself for those who feel they need to take that from me. There are many on this web site who do not seem to need to take from me. But on the flip side there are those who do, and if I did not make allowances for them they would destroy all that his being done here. If not for a gracious Host they would have suceeded along time ago.

If the content of your argument is worth spending that much time on, it's worth spell-checking and working on grammar as well. If you think it's too much time, I'd rather point you to Ryft, who spent as much time answering the posts he felt worth answering, research included, and while he didn't have the disabilities that would make it harder he did spend almost an equally proportional amount of time on it because he felt it was worth it.

I could take the bait offered here and turn my anlitical mind to listing the all of the differences between a well respected and beloved member of this forum, and myself. But, I see the pit falls being far greater than anything this arguement could possiable offer me in return.
It's kinda like me offering you the oppertunity to attack, and you decline the invitation.

If you plan to show that you're sincere in preaching to us, or at least putting forth your argument, it was my suggestion that you do this. If you don't feel it's worth the time balancing between your work and family, then don't.

I am glad to see i have your permission to stay the course.

And trust me...it's not just the grammar and spelling that turns us off. Once we get past that, and we do, the content is itself judged as religious BS.

Then it sould be easy to dispell what has been said and move on.

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I think Drich keeps the errors in, so he has a ready-made excuse when people reject what he has to say. "You're don't agree with me, because of my bad grammar and spelling."

No, people don't agree with you, because you spout mostly nonsense.

when have I ever made this 'excuse?' When the topic comes up I generally let you guys run with it. Or will point to the deflection (rather than answering the rebuttal directly.) I do not use my spelling as a defense for scripture.

[thesummerqueen]

You're a piece of work, Drich.

Go ahead, show your 'work' off. I've got hort homework to get on with.

[Drich]

Late again, I see; though I'm only just getting back into the swing of things after a dodgy few days in hospital. Anyway: I would say that this -

I don't really care. I don't expect what I write on an open forum like this to private in any regard. So I voted yes.

But I wouldn't want to think you were going to do a mashup of the original posts which misrepresented what I said either.

comes closest to my view on the matter. Granted that this is a public forum, as it should be, and there's no realistic way to prevent anyone from using any of this material in whatever way they like. However, past skirmishes cause me to be rather dubious as to the likelihood of my words being represented fairly. Once bitten and all that.

Sorry to hear about your trip to the hospital. I hope everything was resolved.
As I told Whatever I am only looking to provide links to threads in general, and will not be mashing things up.

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No offense to Drich intended, but I gave up reading 90% of what he posts long ago due to the spelling and grammar errors. Writing with so many uncorrected spelling comes across as unintelligent, unlearned, and/or lazy, and frankly, it's painful to read.

Lazy writing doesn't really deserve to be read, IMHO.

If I thought that was the best he was capable of, I'd understand.

Stay the course brother.

[Darkstar]

You're missing the point, Drich. You keep saying that we are on 'our high horse' and that we need to arbitrarily dismiss your arguments to make ourselves feel better when it isn't true. Of course, if I point out the obvious fact that you seem to be doing this right now, you will simply accuse me of it. At the end of the day, the person with facts is supported, and the one without is not. If you reject the facts we present, there is nothing we can do. And if you present ambiguous sources as 'solid' evidence, we will dismiss it. Of course, you will then accuse me of being the one to dismiss solid sources and say you have the actual facts.

Then it sould be easy to dispell what has been said and move on.

We do; you just refuse to believe us. The fact of the matter is that at the end of the day science works. Period. You would not be at this forum right now if it weren't for science. If you are willing to disregard something that has been objectively proven to be effective time and time again in favor of speculation and ancient texts of highly questionable accuracy, then what can we do?