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Conversion
RE: Conversion
(September 28, 2009 at 4:13 am)theVOID Wrote: No, and i can sum this up in one quote:

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

You need not read any further as the preceding gem from Sagan speaks for it's self, but since you are going to yet again ignore my answer i will say this: If i was going to tell you i ate eggs for breakfast you would not require evidence to hold the claim as truth, you would use logic to determine that the claim is feasible and experience to determine it is likely, if i told you however that i ate them with the queen of england on a yacht in the Bahamas then you would need evidence to hold it as truth because even though it is logically possible, it is not the type of claim that you should accept based on logic alone.

Spot on. I detailed that whole progression of the need for more evidence in this article

Of course Arcanus and I are discussing the same thing, only I was using Carl Sagan's dragon analogy.

It's such a shame he died so early.
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RE: Conversion
(October 2, 2009 at 11:16 pm)Eilonnwy Wrote:
(September 28, 2009 at 4:13 am)theVOID Wrote: No, and i can sum this up in one quote:

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

You need not read any further as the preceding gem from Sagan speaks for it's self, but since you are going to yet again ignore my answer i will say this: If i was going to tell you i ate eggs for breakfast you would not require evidence to hold the claim as truth, you would use logic to determine that the claim is feasible and experience to determine it is likely, if i told you however that i ate them with the queen of england on a yacht in the Bahamas then you would need evidence to hold it as truth because even though it is logically possible, it is not the type of claim that you should accept based on logic alone.

Spot on. I detailed that whole progression of the need for more evidence in this article

Of course Arcanus and I are discussing the same thing, only I was using Carl Sagan's dragon analogy.

It's such a shame he died so early.

Wicked article Smile Love reading your stuff.

Haven't heard of the dragon analogy, where were you and Arcanus discussing it?
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RE: Conversion
(October 2, 2009 at 11:16 pm)Eilonnwy Wrote: It's such a shame he died so early.

What a loss, it is a shame he did die so early.
(August 2, 2009 at 1:49 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: What would it take to convince a theist that they are wrong?

What would it take to convince an atheist that they are wrong?

Rhizo

To really convince a person that they are wrong?

I'd say you would need evidense to convice them.

Amp
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RE: Conversion
(August 2, 2009 at 1:49 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: What would it take to convince a theist that they are wrong?
I once asked one of my co-workers this question and she said "nothing." It seems that the vast majority want their worldview to be true so they'll rationalize their beliefs in anyway they can in order to make sense out of them. A loving God that will provide you with ultimate bliss in the afterlife for eternity instead of being in deep sleep without any dreams is something that believers find too comforting to let go of.

(August 2, 2009 at 1:49 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: What would it take to convince an atheist that they are wrong?
Since God is supposed to be omniscient he should know what would convince each individual person. However, something testable that science can verify would be a good start.
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