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RE: Should We F**k God, any god, goddess, guru, swami, or spiritual authority?
January 7, 2013 at 2:14 pm
(January 7, 2013 at 12:29 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: May I be reprimanded somewhere where you can be more strict? 
Once again Violet my darling, do not tempt me 
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Should We F**k God, any god, goddess, guru, swami, or spiritual authority?
January 7, 2013 at 2:51 pm
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(January 7, 2013 at 2:14 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: (January 7, 2013 at 12:29 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: May I be reprimanded somewhere where you can be more strict?
Once again Violet my darling, do not tempt me
Must I not...? I do love that moment when someone gives in to their temptation. Watching their restraint erode until it snaps, and they go for it~
I might even live for that moment Why not tempt you, when all that could happen would be wonderful? 
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RE: Should We F**k God, any god, goddess, guru, swami, or spiritual authority?
January 7, 2013 at 3:01 pm
(January 7, 2013 at 2:51 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: Why not tempt you, when all that could happen would be wonderful?
Tell that to my boyfriend.. *sigh* (And hell yes, it would be awesome!)
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Should We F**k God, any god, goddess, guru, swami, or spiritual authority?
January 7, 2013 at 4:27 pm
(January 7, 2013 at 3:01 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: Tell that to my boyfriend.. *sigh* (And hell yes, it would be awesome!)
Your boyfriend doesn't like being tempted?!  But you're so pretty! Does he make you wear things that hide all of your beautiful features? 
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RE: Should We F**k God, any god, goddess, guru, swami, or spiritual authority?
January 7, 2013 at 10:38 pm
(December 8, 2012 at 1:45 pm)Mo Goomar Wrote: What are your feedbacks to the above question?
I am a retired medical doctor.
I think God, or gods, and goddesses over millennia have been extoled and elevated by religious leaders only to exploit people for their personal shoddy gains. I have also have had personal experiences of the mafia-like undercurrent activities of basically all religious institutions specifically the Hindu religion and its subsets. This mafia style activities are at variance to the projected public image.
This is hardly a question. Unless the local god or gods are speaking in plain language to all of their worshipers what it or they want is solely determined by the self-appointed spokesrats. In the process of speaking for the gods the spokesrats acquire great wealth.
In both ancient Egypt and the Reformation civil authorities reclaiming accumulated land from the priests led to major conflict and civil wars. In both cases the priests were the cause of the conflict in attempting to usurp the authority of the civil rulers. So far as I am aware only the pre-Reformation era Popes openly claimed this civil authority.
After Constantine chose Christianity he used it to reclaim the accumulated property of the temples. This did not lead to civil wars but to major slaughters and the replacement of pagan priests by Christian priests who started over with minimal land holdings.
In the 19th and early 20th centuries similar conflicts played out in Spain and Mexico. In Italy the Papal states were reclaimed by civil authority and church holdings elsewhere in Italy continued only in custom not in fact, i.e., the power to collect rents was gone though the church still theoretically owned the land.
Tangentially related is when Rome conquered a new territory the treasuries of the local temple were at its disposal for further conquests and control of insurrections. That is they were treated as a second source of tax revenues.
Sort of related were the Maccabes declaring themselves the priests (going back to Aaron) while having no connection to being priests prior to their sedition against Seleucid rule. They sort of melded both civil and religious functions.
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