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Again....But it's never the guns!
#41
RE: Again....But it's never the guns!
(December 14, 2012 at 7:47 pm)Shell B Wrote: Napo, I read today that more school shootings have occurred in the UK in the past decade by far. Sorry. I'll try to find some stats on that.

Please do, because I find that really hard to believe.

Quote:Also, obviously there is an agenda. Raising a point where you obviously have an opinion is promoting an agenda. It's not to say that promoting an agenda is bad. I simply think a lot of us think it is bad timing.

When is good timing then? Two weeks after? Two months? Two years? Two decades? When? What difference does it make? If someone has a valid question that indicates lives could be saved by doing something differently, as far as I'm concerned there's no such thing as 'bad timing'.

Quote:A lot of people aren't even taking a breath to say how sad it is. It's just straight to, "Oh, the guns! Those fucking guns!" /observation

Well obviously. I still don't see why this is a bad thing.

To me it goes without saying that this is sad. But to moan at people for questioning how such a sad thing could be prevented because of 'bad timing'. Jesus christ it's just non-sensical.

I really don't see how it's disrespectful in the slightest to try and find a way of preventing such tragedies happening in the future, because that's the only motivation I personally have when I ask "why has a crazy fucker like that got access to guns".
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#42
RE: Again....But it's never the guns!
(December 15, 2012 at 2:07 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Please do, because I find that really hard to believe.

Check the stats in the other school shooting thread.

Quote:When is good timing then? Two weeks after? Two months? Two years? Two decades? When? What difference does it make? If someone has a valid question that indicates lives could be saved by doing something differently, as far as I'm concerned there's no such thing as 'bad timing'.

After they bother to recognize that it sucks, perhaps? I don't know. I'm not the moral police. I am saying why some people think it is tasteless. Is your countering their observation any better?

Quote:Well obviously. I still don't see why this is a bad thing.

Opening up discussion is never a bad thing. It can be in bad taste, but it's not inherently bad.

Quote:To me it goes without saying that this is sad. But to moan at people for questioning how such a sad thing could be prevented because of 'bad timing'. Jesus christ it's just non-sensical.

I'm not moaning. I don't give a fuck what people say. I just wish there were more discussion about what happened then about political agendas that we have already beat to fucking death in this forum.
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#43
RE: Again....But it's never the guns!
(December 15, 2012 at 3:21 pm)Shell B Wrote: I just wish there were more discussion about what happened then about political agendas that we have already beat to fucking death in this forum.

Like any other subject doesn't get beat to death on this forum Facepalm
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#44
RE: Again....But it's never the guns!
No shit, Sherlock. That's pretty irrelevant, since I never said it is the only topic that gets beat to fucking death. Maybe that smack on the head will help your cogs get back in motion. Tongue
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#45
RE: Again....But it's never the guns!
(December 15, 2012 at 2:07 pm)Napoléon Wrote: I really don't see how it's disrespectful in the slightest to try and find a way of preventing such tragedies happening in the future, because that's the only motivation I personally have when I ask "why has a crazy fucker like that got access to guns".

I agree with you. What all really needs to be said about the suffering? "Damn shame." "So sad." "Regrettable." Now I prefer to problem solve than to go on in that vein.

Is it opportunistic? We're not all in a small room with the victims present where we need to be quiet and respectful. We're just on the fucking internet talking about what is on our minds. Shit happens all over the world every day. It is not my goal to feel it all as deeply as possible. However, I'm on board for discussing how to solve problems which recur over and over again.

Perhaps we need two threads for this. One for those who feel the need to mourn and one for the rest of us.
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#46
RE: Again....But it's never the guns!
I count 3 threads connected to this issue. Till now, all coversations have been quite civil. Shame, I could use some moderating practice Big Grin
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#47
RE: Again....But it's never the guns!
(December 15, 2012 at 4:32 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I count 3 threads connected to this issue. Till now, all coversations have been quite civil. Shame, I could use some moderating practice Big Grin

You f#%#>,$#^#>~>~>~^}$#>#>¥$£$!!!!!!
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#48
RE: Again....But it's never the guns!
(December 15, 2012 at 4:34 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: You f#%#>,$#^#>~>~>~^}$#>#>¥$£$!!!!!!

ROFLOL
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#49
RE: Again....But it's never the guns!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRHU3suf-...ata_player
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#50
RE: Again....But it's never the guns!
Quote:When is good timing then? Two weeks after? Two months? Two years? Two decades?

As far as the NR Fucking A is concerned it is never the right time.
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