End of the World Question

[KichigaiNeko]

It is the end of the Long-count Brian a bit like our New Years eve and January 1.

The calendar then resets for the next long count, I am to understand.

[popeyespappy]

It is the end of the Long-count Brian a bit like our New Years eve and January 1.

The calendar then resets for the next long count, I am to understand.

It's all the room the had on the rock...

[KichigaiNeko]

It is the end of the Long-count Brian a bit like our New Years eve and January 1.

The calendar then resets for the next long count, I am to understand.

It's all the room the had on the rock...

Not really. The "rock" many are referring to is the AZTEC calendar. Which had very little to do with the Mayan calendar Long count (Mathematics a bit too sophisticated for the Aztec) There is a difference.

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[Cato]

Of course, this argument would only make sense given the direction as well as the cataclysm itself. If the whole world just blew up, it wouldn't matter.

Thoughts?

The christian argument only makes sense if christ came back as lightning from the east, with trumpets of course.

See how this mythology shit works?

[popeyespappy]

Oh hell Kichi I was just trying to be a smart ass. In any case Mesoamerican calendars were quite sophisticated, and there is no reason to believe their concept of time was limited to what they had the space to carve on a single piece of stone

For example

The inscription on Quirigua stela F, or 6, shows a Long Count date of 9.16.10.0.0 1 Ahau 3 Zip (March 15, 761 Gregorian). The huge distance date of 1.8.13.0.9.16.10.0.0 is subtracted and the resulting date is given as (18.)13.0.0.0.0.0.0.0 1 Ahau 13 Yaxkin, which is equivalent to a day over 90 million years in the past. There is another distance date on Quirigua Stela D or 4, that gives a date of 9.16.15.0.0 7 Ahau 18 Pop (February 17, 766 Gregorian), to which is added 6.8.13.0.9.16.15.0.0, to give a date of (13.)13.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. This is over 400 million years after the date the stela was erected.

So they actually recorded dates 90 million years in the past and 400 million years in the future. Those are just surviving examples...

[KichigaiNeko]

Oh hell Kichi I was just trying to be a smart ass. In any case Mesoamerican calendars were quite sophisticated, and there is no reason to believe their concept of time was limited to what they had the space to carve on a single piece of stone

For example

The inscription on Quirigua stela F, or 6, shows a Long Count date of 9.16.10.0.0 1 Ahau 3 Zip (March 15, 761 Gregorian). The huge distance date of 1.8.13.0.9.16.10.0.0 is subtracted and the resulting date is given as (18.)13.0.0.0.0.0.0.0 1 Ahau 13 Yaxkin, which is equivalent to a day over 90 million years in the past. There is another distance date on Quirigua Stela D or 4, that gives a date of 9.16.15.0.0 7 Ahau 18 Pop (February 17, 766 Gregorian), to which is added 6.8.13.0.9.16.15.0.0, to give a date of (13.)13.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. This is over 400 million years after the date the stela was erected.

So they actually recorded dates 90 million years in the past and 400 million years in the future. Those are just surviving examples...

good morning Pappy!

Yeah I know.

but I also wanted YOU to know I knew the difference

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Of course, this argument would only make sense given the direction as well as the cataclysm itself. If the whole world just blew up, it wouldn't matter.

Thoughts?

The christian argument only makes sense if christ came back as lightning from the east, with trumpets of course.

See how this mythology shit works?

It doesn't.

And that is the whole point clem.

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To point out the painfully obvious...

The mesoAmerican culture had a better dating system than the xtian culture of the time period.





Based on observation. aka science

[LastPoet]

What do I think of this end of the world? The same about every other end of the world, and I've been trough a few, I'll point and laugh the next day.

Its a way for some scammers to make alot of money out of gullible people though.

[Zen Badger]

[Something completely different]

Let's say that the world ends on December 21, 2012.

If it ends starting in New Zealand and travels east, does that mean I can get on a plane west of New Zealand and travel to the location after it has been destroyed?

In other words, I will arrive safety after New Zealand has been destroyed and live there after the "end."

Of course, this argument would only make sense given the direction as well as the cataclysm itself. If the whole world just blew up, it wouldn't matter.

Thoughts?

Reminds me of a quote by a not so well known German poet:

"If there should ever be an apocalypse, I shall move to Austria, because over there everything happens 20 years later"

On your question, the world will not end! point!

The maya calender might end on that day, but do you really expect a civilisation which whilest seperated from other civilisations, invented the wheel - but then was to fucking stupid to actualy use it as a method of transportation - to make any accurate predictions? Let alone acurate predictions about the end of the world?

[KichigaiNeko]

Let's say that the world ends on December 21, 2012.

If it ends starting in New Zealand and travels east, does that mean I can get on a plane west of New Zealand and travel to the location after it has been destroyed?

In other words, I will arrive safety after New Zealand has been destroyed and live there after the "end."

Of course, this argument would only make sense given the direction as well as the cataclysm itself. If the whole world just blew up, it wouldn't matter.

Thoughts?

Reminds me of a quote by a not so well known German poet:

"If there should ever be an apocalypse, I shall move to Austria, because over there everything happens 20 years later"

On your question, the world will not end! point!

The maya calender might end on that day, but do you really expect a civilisation which whilest seperated from other civilisations, invented the wheel - but then was to fucking stupid to actualy use it as a method of transportation - to make any accurate predictions? Let alone acurate predictions about the end of the world?

Just one moment count TGAC

The Mayan civilisation did not utilise the wheel in the same way that Japan did not utilise the wheel ...the terrain was not conducive to it's application, and yet they KNEW of the wheel. The Mayan civilisation utilised the wheel in the Long and Short Count Calendars and so had full knowledge of the mathematical and physical applications of the "wheel"