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RE: quran 2:99
January 20, 2013 at 8:12 pm
(January 20, 2013 at 7:52 pm)Kane Wrote: وَلَقَدْ أَنزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ آيَاتٍ بَيِّنَاتٍ وَمَا يَكْفُرُ بِهَا إِلاَّ الْفَاسِقُونَ
simply ... He knows people won't believe him
so he stated to them already
The most troubling issue is that, ignorants are the first to deny.
You -my friend- and a lot of others, think that ignorance is the way to believe..
But the opposite is right, a well educated person (especially a person who's not brainwashed by marvel comics) is the first to believe.
Humans, so beautiful so fair, with biological counters in their body, giving them a certain amount of time on this earth, and then they all die.
Humans who are surrounded by very complex systems, begging them to check it out, and seek the common design in all of them.
As an educated, computer scientist , I do my logic right. This world is a system, the planets are programmed, everything is programmed.
I know that a code won't write itself.. People like you ? you just fail to see the source code..
Look up in the sky from time to time : )
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RE: quran 2:99
January 20, 2013 at 8:31 pm
(January 20, 2013 at 8:12 pm)AtlasS Wrote: (January 20, 2013 at 7:52 pm)Kane Wrote: وَلَقَدْ أَنزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ آيَاتٍ بَيِّنَاتٍ وَمَا يَكْفُرُ بِهَا إِلاَّ الْفَاسِقُونَ
simply ... He knows people won't believe him
so he stated to them already
The most troubling issue is that, ignorants are the first to deny.
You -my friend- and a lot of others, think that ignorance is the way to believe..
But the opposite is right, a well educated person (especially a person who's not brainwashed by marvel comics) is the first to believe.
Humans, so beautiful so fair, with biological counters in their body, giving them a certain amount of time on this earth, and then they all die.
Humans who are surrounded by very complex systems, begging them to check it out, and seek the common design in all of them.
As an educated, computer scientist , I do my logic right. This world is a system, the planets are programmed, everything is programmed.
I know that a code won't write itself.. People like you ? you just fail to see the source code..
Look up in the sky from time to time : )
It's you who need to look under may SN and read the word : Atheist
You're a Drop in The Rain ... Just a Number not a Name
and You won't see It ... You don't believe It
at The End of The Day ... You're a Needle in The Hay
You signed and sealed It ... and Now You gotta deal with It
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RE: quran 2:99
January 20, 2013 at 8:37 pm
^
I know xD.. And I wrote that to an atheist. What do/did you study in college ? I'm asking for real
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RE: quran 2:99
January 20, 2013 at 8:41 pm
(January 20, 2013 at 8:37 pm)AtlasS Wrote: ^
I know xD.. And I wrote that to an atheist. What do/did you study in college ? I'm asking for real
English language
You're a Drop in The Rain ... Just a Number not a Name
and You won't see It ... You don't believe It
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You signed and sealed It ... and Now You gotta deal with It
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RE: quran 2:99
January 20, 2013 at 8:47 pm
Amazing, I considered studying it once, but the middle east is crawling with english students, so I would end up eventually without a job -_-".
Anyways, your own field has some miracles..
why do humans -uniquely- enjoy the luxury of languages, such as english ? just why ? how can we recall the sentences, words, letters, even write them down, as a wonderful safe for human thoughts & ideas, translated into a readable form, ready to be read even after thousands of years ??
doesn't that mean, humans are unique ? and they do understand things that other creatures don't ? or in other words : have a better "understanding" skills ?
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RE: quran 2:99
January 20, 2013 at 8:52 pm
(January 20, 2013 at 8:47 pm)AtlasS Wrote: Amazing, I considered studying it once, but the middle east is crawling with english students, so I would end up eventually without a job -_-".
Anyways, your own field has some miracles..
why do humans -uniquely- enjoy the luxury of languages, such as english ? just why ? how can we recall the sentences, words, letters, even write them down, as a wonderful safe for human thoughts & ideas, translated into a readable form, ready to be read even after thousands of years ??
doesn't that mean, humans are unique ? and they do understand things that other creatures don't ? or in other words : have a better "understanding" skills ?
No doubt about that
You're a Drop in The Rain ... Just a Number not a Name
and You won't see It ... You don't believe It
at The End of The Day ... You're a Needle in The Hay
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RE: quran 2:99
January 20, 2013 at 9:05 pm
Now, being unique, into a unique world. Everything in it calls you to know more about it. And for some weird odd, language exists, so humans can share knowledge, and connect effort, only to a one & only goal (in all cases) : understanding the universe more.
And here's the main point. Random stuff don't give surprises, leaves also no chance for "charities" and millions of unexplainable odds. The sun is there. Great ! what are the odds, that a creature in earth, called human, would be able to take its energy & store it ?
what are the odds, that the cells which hold the sun's energy, are impossible to make without human hands ? imagine of we were birds, how would we carry on accurate jobs to manifest such devices ?
why are we, as humans, capable of understanding that around us, there is a system ?
scientists call it like that, not me. The planets have a system, they are not random. In the same time, humans have the mind to understand that system..
now..what happens when me, a guitarist for example, hear a beautiful guitar riff coming out from the forest ?
the winds ( didn't play that)..
the same applies to any system around us. We humans, as thinkers, with some experience in creation (just like the creation of language) should recognize another creation.
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RE: quran 2:99
January 20, 2013 at 9:07 pm
I'll reply tomorrow
have a good night
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RE: quran 2:99
January 21, 2013 at 9:26 am
Atlas are you trying to introduce me to your God or something ??
seriously .. what's your point of all that emotional sweet talk ?
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RE: quran 2:99
January 21, 2013 at 10:44 am
(January 21, 2013 at 9:26 am)Kane Wrote: Atlas are you trying to introduce me to your God or something ??
seriously .. what's your point of all that emotional sweet talk ?
Nope, I'm not using those cheap methods, I don't assume that you're a child that needs brainwashing.
These are my thoughts. I'm just trying to let you experience them. I'm telling that even to other muslims like me.
BTW, I hated god for a long time, without emotions I would've became an atheist. I believe that with emotions, I can put the person in front of me into my shoes, to see what I see.
That would make the discussion even better : )
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