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RE: New Video on Apologetics
February 5, 2013 at 5:50 pm
That's Jesus out the window then.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: New Video on Apologetics
February 5, 2013 at 6:57 pm
(This post was last modified: February 5, 2013 at 7:06 pm by Angrboda.)
Just to be clear, I fully believe that you move shit with your mind. I don't know how you would be able to type if you didn't. I move shit with my mind all the time — I move my arms, my legs, my mouth — all with the power of my mind! (There's an interesting point about causal sufficiency here. For some reason the fact that we are able to make our bodies move by sheer force of our will strikes us as unremarkable, yet it's really quite magical if you think about it. Why we find it so incredible that someone might move someone or something besides themselves just by thinking it, yet not even question the source of my ability to move my body by simply thinking about it, is not readily apparent.)
As long as I'm making observations about past and present denizens of the animal world, I can't help but point out that most species of catfish are benthic, or in plain speech, "bottom feeders."
Quote:The theistic arguments examined in this chapter clearly are the products of brilliant minds. This is to the credit of the authors of these arguments, but to the discredit of theism. Theistic belief obviously exerts great attraction; few doctrines in the history of ideas can boast such a stellar set of intellectual defenders, from Augustine and Aquinas to Plantinga and Swinburne. Yet the end product of all that brilliance is a set of arguments that, at least from the atheist's perspective, achieve very little. Is theistic belief warranted? Plantinga has given me no reason to think so. Is the theistic hypothesis confirmed by evidence? Swinburne's promise of a quasi-scientific theism fails to deliver. Is this the best that theism can offer in support of itself? I am forced to conclude that it is.
— The Cambridge Companion To Atheism, Keith Parsons, "Some Contemporary Theistic Arguments"
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RE: New Video on Apologetics
February 5, 2013 at 7:06 pm
Yup, I love shit and you guys dish it out in heaping portions...
lol?
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RE: New Video on Apologetics
February 5, 2013 at 8:07 pm
(February 5, 2013 at 11:36 am)catfish Wrote: The original claim was "victory" before he had been presented evidence, a presuppositional fallacy, PERIOD.
A greater textbook example of a straw man fallacy would be difficult to imagine.
If you actually watched the video, the point was if the best you can offer is "blah blah blah", which, by the way is NOT evidence but an untested hypothesis at best, then you've failed to meet the burden of proof.
Show me evidence and you have my attention.
Did Darth Vader use the Ontological Argument for The Force when he found an admiral's lack of faith to be disturbing?
I guarantee you not a single AForcist left that briefing room that day.
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RE: New Video on Apologetics
February 5, 2013 at 8:22 pm
(February 5, 2013 at 8:07 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: (February 5, 2013 at 11:36 am)catfish Wrote: The original claim was "victory" before he had been presented evidence, a presuppositional fallacy, PERIOD.
A greater textbook example of a straw man fallacy would be difficult to imagine.
If you're talking about your video, I couldn't agree more...
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RE: New Video on Apologetics
February 5, 2013 at 11:06 pm
(February 5, 2013 at 8:22 pm)catfish Wrote: (February 5, 2013 at 8:07 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: A greater textbook example of a straw man fallacy would be difficult to imagine.
If you're talking about your video, I couldn't agree more...
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Ah yes, the old "I know you are but what am I" retort. Precisely the kind of witty repartee I've come to expect from you.
I stopped thinking that was a clever answer somewhere around second grade.
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RE: New Video on Apologetics
February 5, 2013 at 11:10 pm
Best to quit now, DP, before he slamdunks you with a "sez you!" or an "oh yeah?".
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: New Video on Apologetics
February 5, 2013 at 11:16 pm
(February 5, 2013 at 11:06 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: (February 5, 2013 at 8:22 pm)catfish Wrote: If you're talking about your video, I couldn't agree more...
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Ah yes, the old "I know you are but what am I" retort. Precisely the kind of witty repartee I've come to expect from you.
I stopped thinking that was a clever answer somewhere around second grade.
So, you mean like last summer? lol
Seriously flawed... Presuppositional fallacy of your own fucking strawman... Perfect example me thinks...
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RE: New Video on Apologetics
February 6, 2013 at 12:29 am
(February 3, 2013 at 10:54 pm)catfish Wrote: How many times have I claimed to be a cherrypicker? Quote:And I AM a Christian fully supported by the Bible.
So you're a cherrypicker who believes in all the Bible?
It's too early in the morning here for intellectual dissonance...
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RE: New Video on Apologetics
February 6, 2013 at 12:33 am
(February 6, 2013 at 12:29 am)FallentoReason Wrote: (February 3, 2013 at 10:54 pm)catfish Wrote: How many times have I claimed to be a cherrypicker? Quote:And I AM a Christian fully supported by the Bible.
So you're a cherrypicker who believes in all the Bible?
It's too early in the morning here for intellectual dissonance...
Yeah, too fucking early...
Show me where I said I believe all of the bible...
You might have had something had I said "supported by the entirety of the Bible", but I didn't. Wake me up before you go-go...
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