What did it?

[pocaracas]

[Something completely different]

What caused you to avert from your natural disposition and turn to atheism?

Natural disposition?

What caused me to leave religion?

Habe Mut dich deines eigenen Verstandes zu bedienen!

Emanuel Kant

[Drew_2013]

That's why its absurd to say its a default position. If that's the case then rocks are atheists since no thinking is required. It you as an atheist who should be insulted by saying its a default non-thinking proposition.

Saying disbelief is the default position is not the same thing as saying it is the same thing as holding the same position as babies hold.

Explain that to your fellow atheists who claim it is an inborn condition

The default position on ANY extraordinary claim is disbelief until the claim is supported by demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument and valid logic.

Says who? But lets keep the focus on the claim we're talking about. The belief theism is an opinion to the question why are we here? Why is there something rather than nothing? Was our existence the result of plan and design or the result of happenstance? Given the extraordinary phenonmena we are attempting to account for what belief in that regard would be 'ordinary'? I can't think of any explanation for our existence and that isn't extraordinary and if they're all extraordinary then they are all ordinary.

[Ryantology]

It you as an atheist who should be insulted by saying its a default non-thinking proposition.

Atheism may be a default, non-thinking position, but you only become a theist once someone lies to you and makes you believe gods exist.

I'll take it. It's better than a non-default, non-thinking proposition.

[downbeatplumb]

The belief theism is an opinion to the question why are we here?

We are here as a result of the natural processes of the universe.

Why is there something rather than nothing?

And you think god is a reasonable answer to this question? I would rather have the sights of science targeted at it to really find out and not have some lame ass easy cop out answer which boils down to "the magic man done it".

Was our existence the result of plan and design or the result of happenstance?

Google evolution through natural selection and learn.

Given the extraordinary phenonmena we are attempting to account for what belief in that regard would be 'ordinary'? I can't think of any explanation for our existence and that isn't extraordinary and if they're all extraordinary then they are all ordinary.

Does this sound like Syndrome from the incredibles to anyone else?

[Zone]

The real answer speaking on behalf of all non-believers on here is what we essentially want is a life of pure sin and debauchery and we don't particularly want to have anyone to be accountable toward anyone for it at the end of the day. It's purely about our own ego, getting that fulfilled, material physical pleasures like we're gods of our own universe, a new breed of supermen with the will to power!

My theory is that religious trolls will be satisfied and you leave alone if they hear what they want to hear from you, the essentially truth of matter.

[Minimalist]

[Drew_2013]

We are here as a result of the natural processes of the universe.

We are here as the result of the fact a universe exists to begin along with a myriad of exacting conditions and characteristics that allow for life.

And you think god is a reasonable answer to this question? [why is there something rather than nothing] I would rather have the sights of science targeted at it to really find out and not have some lame ass easy cop out answer which boils down to "the magic man done it".

Our modern technology would look like magical feats to someone from a few hundred years ago. But it wasn't magic, it was planning and design that done it. On the other hand most atheists I have chatted with propose that this is one of an infinitude of universes or that this universe 'poofed' into existence uncaused out of nothing. Kind of like pulling a rabbit out of a hat.

Google evolution through natural selection and learn.

Evolution is a fact and natural selection does have a an influence. Whether that mechanism suffices to account for the variety of life is uncertain. I am skeptical.

[Zone]

Our modern technology would look like magical feats to someone from a few hundred years ago. But it wasn't magic, it was planning and design that done it. On the other hand most atheists I have chatted with propose that this is one of an infinitude of universes or that this universe 'poofed' into existence uncaused out of nothing. Kind of like pulling a rabbit out of a hat.

So the miracles of the Bible was like the product of high technology rather than the supernatural?

[Ryantology]

On the other hand most atheists I have chatted with propose that this is one of an infinitude of universes or that this universe 'poofed' into existence uncaused out of nothing. Kind of like pulling a rabbit out of a hat.

That's funny, because every time I hear someone claim "the universe came from nothing", it comes from a theist who misunderstands the Big Bang theory and sets up strawmen.

Nor have I ever heard of anyone who insists that multiple universes definitely exist, it's nothing more than an untested hypothesis.