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Proving God Existence
RE: Proving God Existence
(May 7, 2013 at 7:57 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: The proof is tricky because it is disproving No god instead of Proving God directly

That is tricky; however, what's even trickier is to then show that your god is the one true god of the thousands that raise their hands when you disprove 'no god'.
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RE: Proving God Existence
Complete nonsense. Junk math.
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RE: Proving God Existence
(May 8, 2013 at 12:55 am)cato123 Wrote:
(May 7, 2013 at 7:57 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: The proof is tricky because it is disproving No god instead of Proving God directly

That is tricky; however, what's even trickier is to then show that your god is the one true god of the thousands that raise their hands when you disprove 'no god'.



Disproving "no god" is the dumbest statement ever! Double Negative!
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RE: Proving God Existence
(May 7, 2013 at 7:57 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: This cannot be proven

Islam does confirm the existence of human-like creatures before Adam
I cannot prove that Adam/humans didn't evolve from other species

It can be proven only by revelation as I mentioned about Quran verses.

How wonderfully convenient that I can have revelations which will prove everything I say, too!
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RE: Proving God Existence
(May 8, 2013 at 2:01 am)Ryantology Wrote:
(May 7, 2013 at 7:57 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: This cannot be proven

Islam does confirm the existence of human-like creatures before Adam
I cannot prove that Adam/humans didn't evolve from other species

It can be proven only by revelation as I mentioned about Quran verses.

How wonderfully convenient that I can have revelations which will prove everything I say, too!
Revelation is a proof
if it is proved first to be true from God

(May 8, 2013 at 1:43 am)Dragonetti Wrote: Disproving "no god" is the dumbest statement ever! Double Negative!
I think it is too advanced to your mutated brain

(May 8, 2013 at 12:55 am)cato123 Wrote:
(May 7, 2013 at 7:57 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: The proof is tricky because it is disproving No god instead of Proving God directly

That is tricky; however, what's even trickier is to then show that your god is the one true god of the thousands that raise their hands when you disprove 'no god'.
I already went almost there
Because the proven attributes of that God Matches only Islam
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RE: Proving God Existence
(May 8, 2013 at 4:26 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Revelation is a proof
if it is proved first to be true from God

Good luck with that last part!

Quote:I already went almost there
Because the proven attributes of that God Matches only Islam

I think you mean "asserted," not "proven."
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RE: Proving God Existence
(May 8, 2013 at 4:26 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:
(May 8, 2013 at 2:01 am)Ryantology Wrote: How wonderfully convenient that I can have revelations which will prove everything I say, too!
Revelation is a proof
if it is proved first to be true from God

(May 8, 2013 at 1:43 am)Dragonetti Wrote: Disproving "no god" is the dumbest statement ever! Double Negative!
I think it is too advanced to your mutated brain

(May 8, 2013 at 12:55 am)cato123 Wrote: That is tricky; however, what's even trickier is to then show that your god is the one true god of the thousands that raise their hands when you disprove 'no god'.
I already went almost there
Because the proven attributes of that God Matches only Islam

I think not. That logic is backwards. You must first prove god, not disprove no god, SCIENCE does not work in that fashion. Logic proofs does not out weigh Science, just because you claim it.
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STILL waiting for proof of this "god-thingy" :S
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RE: Proving God Existence
(May 8, 2013 at 12:33 am)Esquilax Wrote: Crazy thought: how about instead of just claiming you can proof something and then making us wait- presumably while you scrabble for an actual answer to the claim you've made- a few posts before you finally get around to it, why not just proof the damn thing in the same post that you claim to have proof.

Wouldn't that save so much time?

It would save time and have the added benefit of keeping the insanity concentrated into fewer posts.
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RE: Proving God Existence
(May 8, 2013 at 4:42 am)Dragonetti Wrote: I think not. That logic is backwards. You must first prove god, not disprove no god, SCIENCE does not work in that fashion. Logic proofs does not out weigh Science, just because you claim it.
You need to read a bit about logic and proofs!

Prove by Contradiction is a well known concept in Algorithms and Logic

Logic is the basic understanding method for human
Science is built on logic, that is why logic is more sound

There are many refuted and false scientific theories
On the other-hand logic concepts were never refuted of proved to be false; it is impossible because when we try to do that we need to use logic itself.

(May 8, 2013 at 12:49 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(May 8, 2013 at 12:33 am)Esquilax Wrote: Crazy thought: how about instead of just claiming you can proof something and then making us wait- presumably while you scrabble for an actual answer to the claim you've made- a few posts before you finally get around to it, why not just proof the damn thing in the same post that you claim to have proof.

Wouldn't that save so much time?

It would save time and have the added benefit of keeping the insanity concentrated into fewer posts.
If I posted everything together it will be a chaos and most of you will not be able to correlate the pieces together

(May 8, 2013 at 4:37 am)Esquilax Wrote: I think you mean "asserted," not "proven."
Assertion is not based on facts
My proof is based on logic (whether you like it or not)
The problem is that you need to refute it (logically) to claim it invalid.
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