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RE: Firearms
March 21, 2013 at 10:03 pm
(March 21, 2013 at 9:58 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: No. I tell twats to their face that they're being twats. Use your brain and the gift of the internet and its sum of human knowledge before making bullshit claims like you have.
He's like 14 or something. Too young for me to call a twat. Tit seems far more age appropriate. But that's just me.
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RE: Firearms
March 21, 2013 at 10:11 pm
I have been following the drama, and I thought I would weigh in with my opinion. I do not advocate for completely disarming citizens, but I do believe that there should be stricter laws in place to make it more difficult for the average nut job to simply purchase firearms. Do I consider someone who owns an arsenal, as though preparing to fight back against a tyrannical government, of sound mind? Absolutely not. I can understand a typical rifle for hunting, or a handgun for home protection, but to own a multitude of guns is just plain nuts.
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RE: Firearms
March 21, 2013 at 10:11 pm
(March 21, 2013 at 9:58 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: No. I tell twats to their face that they're being twats. Use your brain and the gift of the internet and its sum of human knowledge before making bullshit claims like you have. You can't seem to understand my reasoning behind my opposition to an adult rifle ban.
You can't seen to pass a person with a philosophy contradicting yours without feeling the need to insult him.
This thread has ventured beyond its intended purpose and I have been feeding part of this bitter conflict.
For those reasons, I am to forfeit from this discussion until you provide me with a sincere apology for whatever wrongdoings you have done to me.
I do admit that I am not innocent, so I believe that it is a given for me to request your forgiveness for any insults that could have in any way provided you emotion harm.
Shall you do the same?
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RE: Firearms
March 21, 2013 at 10:27 pm
Hahahaha
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RE: Firearms
March 21, 2013 at 10:37 pm
I apologize if that appears disorganized, but I have many thought processes running through my mind at a given time that I am subject to mistakes in the structure of what I write.
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RE: Firearms
March 21, 2013 at 11:38 pm
Listen here, "youngin" -
Plenty of people disagree with me on many things here. If you want an example, I don't agree with Tiberius' Libertarian principles. He doesn't like socialism. Yet we manage to be civil...even, I daresay, friends. You mistake 'disagreement' and 'insult' with 'calling out unmitigated shit'.
I won't apologize to you, because you were acting like a twat. If you feel you need an apology to continue, I suggest you work on your feelings getting hurt a bit less - more people than I will demand you bring sauce for the meat you keep slapping around haphazardly.
You make claims that, quite honestly, sound like Fox News regurgitations, none of which are cited
I don't understand your position, because the only thing you've said in defense of your claims is "Because Constitution".
You didn't cause me emotional harm. Why on earth would you think you could affect me that much? I don't count you as a friend or confidante. Please learn how to feel about discussing things on the internetz.
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RE: Firearms
March 22, 2013 at 12:37 am
(This post was last modified: March 22, 2013 at 12:44 am by Creed of Heresy.)
Here. I'mma just plop this down here.
Wit and reasonable thinking all in once. It's funny and it has a very good point.
Listen to it all the way through. If you actually respect reason, you'll get what he's getting at pretty fast, and therefore you'll also know my own stance pretty easily.
My stance has been stated many times already. I'm not reiterating them. I'll let 2 do that this time.
Quote:When are you morons gonna realize violence is in the people, not the guns. Take away the guns and they'll stab each other. Take away the knives and they'll throw Draino on each other. Take away the Draino and they'll gag each other with eighteen-inch dildos! Even if they had no weapons at all, where do you think kung-fu came from? What were ancient Chinese people without weapons doing? Trying to figure out just the right way to bounce a rice patty off someone's head so that it would shatter their spinal column. You keep trying to take weapons away, ok? Maybe in a couple hundred YEARS you'll figure out that if you wanna stop the violence you're gonna have to stop the HATE; not guns or knives!
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RE: Firearms
March 22, 2013 at 6:01 am
(March 21, 2013 at 9:53 pm)C3P0 Wrote: I doubt that the two of you would be using such insulting language in face to face communication.
Boy have YOU got ALOT to learn young padawan
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RE: Firearms
March 22, 2013 at 6:25 am
(March 21, 2013 at 8:50 pm)festive1 Wrote: A ban on assault rifles would have spared at least some of those kids in Connecticut. They aren't serving a valid purpose in the hands of civilians. So what's the justification for keeping them legal? The Constitution was written when a gun required at least 30 seconds to reload. It was never intended to protect citizen's rights to modern, military weapons.
I thought the facts revealed that 4 handguns were used and not the rifle...
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RE: Firearms
March 22, 2013 at 7:04 am
(March 21, 2013 at 4:03 pm)C3P0 Wrote: I find it rather ridiculous that some far-left, radical liberals find a ban on assult rifles to be nessassary to combat violence in the United States. There's nothing "far left" about supporting a ban on semiautomatic weapons. Nothing at all.
The only reasons that I don't support such a move for the USA is because 1. I think it should be addressed at the State level not the Federal level and 2. I do not think it is fiscally responsible when mass shootings do not always - or even mostly - make use of said weapons.
Quote:Yet the reality of scenarios evidences the fact that further restrictions and prohibitions of people's access to arms doesn't do much to improve their behaviors.
That much is total nonsense. Absolutely total nonsense. Data from all around the world will show you that placing restrictions on the access to arms DOES do a lot to improve their behaviours. Especially when it comes to issues such as safety and security. The number of "accidental" hunting/sport shootings is ridiculously high in the USA because nobody is forced to attend safety lessons. When kids go to swimming class in the pool, their teacher/instructor has been trained with CPR and they have to keep their first aid training up to date to continue to teach children. There are a large number of people who believe parents should be forced to have up to date first aid training if they have children and they have a pool at home - the fact is this will reduce the number of deaths by drowning of children. There is absolutely no reason to think that having standards in place for the use of firearms as their is in many other areas (driving, swimming, etc) will not have a beneficial result.
Quote:In the year 2012, only around one-hundred fifty (with the shooters counted if killed) of a number over eleven-thousand gun deaths were the result of mass shootings.
So what? That tells you nothing about semiautomatic weapons at all because no mass shooting NEEDS one, they only need a firearm. Accidental shootings are one of things that you should be looking at.
Quote:Alongside that, leftist media corperations enjoy reporting events such as the Colorado Theater Shooting or the Sandy Hook Shooting for two main reasons-to gain revenue through advertising and to sway viewers to their agendas.
I'm calling bullshit on this. "Leftist media corporations enjoy reporting events ..." What is there to enjoy about it?
Quote:With those facts known, many gun-control advocates tend to draw western European nations as reasons by which legislators and other government bodies should have the right to trample upon whatever sections of the United States Constitution that its members feel are necessary to. Many of these people forget to mention that the average man in countries such as England, Denmark, and Geramny tend to have a higher income and educational level than most Americans do, and also have universal healhcare systems in which those who suffer from mental illnesses can be treated more effecivly in the United States.
And you have something that shows me those are significant factors in considering the application of tighter firearm controls?
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