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Hello from Singapore!!!
#11
RE: Hello from Singapore!!!
Welcome S.gal83!

Which religion/s or not are you most attracted to?
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#12
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(September 5, 2009 at 2:55 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Welcome S.gal83!

Which religion/s or not are you most attracted to?

The ones that make sense, judging by his posts here. He's already explained why your Magic Man doesn't fit the bill.
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#13
RE: Hello from Singapore!!!
(September 5, 2009 at 12:06 pm)s.gal83 Wrote:
(September 5, 2009 at 11:52 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Firstly Welcome.

Why be open to religions at all?
Can I suggest it might be better to see if non-religious means can fulfil your needs.
Personally I can't think of a single 'real' benefit from religion that wont have a secular alternative.

Edited for my stupidity

(September 5, 2009 at 11:57 am)Tiberius Wrote:
(September 5, 2009 at 11:52 am)s.gal83 Wrote:
(September 5, 2009 at 11:43 am)Tiberius Wrote: Welcome to the forums.

Might as well ask, why do you think a god created this world, and why do you think it is immoral?

The belief in God who created this world was there even when I was a child. I was brought up in a taoist background, but my belief is always in a Most High Creator God. Therefore, when I learned about the christian concept of God, it matches with what I had always believed about God. As both a taoist, and later a christian, I had witnessed some of God's miracles.
Ok, so what are some of these miracles. In other words, why do you believe there is a God? What led to your belief, other than your upbringing?

I believe in a God because well, I just always do.

Then, when I was around 12 years old, I went to Canada as a tourist. However, I was sick and had asthma. So, I could not go with the rest of my family to visit a snow mountain there. I had to stay in my hotel. I was disappointed and talked to the unknown god about it. Well, right outside my hotel, it started to snow that day. I later learnt from my tour guide that it was not a snowing season that day.

When I was 18, I converted to christianity. I wanted to commit suicide one day. I wrote a letter to God, telling him that I want to die and asking him to forgive me for my crime of suicide. Just after I finish writing the letter, my doorbell rang. My best friend came, buying me some food and drinks. She didn't know why she suddenly visit my house. She just felt her inner voice telling her to visit me and she obey her inner voice.

When I was 20, I attended a charismatic church. There, I witness peolple who had terminal illness being healed miraculously after they were being prayed for.

Such miracles in my life convinced me of the existence of God. Though later on, I began to doubt on his morality.


The snow wasn't for you.
It was the devil trying to slip up an old woman. Big Grin
As for the miraculous cures I'd really like to see the paperwork on that.
Anything that couldn't be helped by placebo or just get better on their own.
Any limbs re-grow for instance.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

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#14
RE: Hello from Singapore!!!
Welcome s.gal Smile

Welcome to the forums. Enjoy your stay Smile

You say you believe in God because you 'always have'...and I wonder, since you're open to all beliefs, why not also be opening to questioning this assumption you've always had, that there's a God at all?

I mean, do you have basis for your belief? Do you have evidence that God exists? Because I don't know of any, haven't heard of any, and wonder if you believe there is any. If not, why do you believe? Evidence is for when a belief has at least some indication that it is true. Without evidence it's not rational to believe. So do you have evidence for the God you believe in?

EvF
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You apparently missed his list of evidence Evie.
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#16
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Oops...

Yeah, a list of what he believes to be self-evidence for miracles.

S.gal83, have you got any other evidence for God or is that it?

Because even if the miracles happened...how does that evidence God? They could exist without God, or they could have been caused by an alien or something like that.

They didn't happen though, just to be clear - I mean the probability of them happening is so remote, it's more likely that you hallucinated the whole thing, or even more likely than that...that they were just coincidences. Or some other explanation.

And an alien causing them is more likely than God causing them. Because aliens actually have an explanation, evolution. Aliens are far more probable. It's far more probable that it's a super alien. God is supposed to exist without any explanation right? And he's superpower and all knowing and everything? He requires a gargantuan amount of evidence, and near impossibly strong at that - highly improbable until further notice.

Finally: On that note, do you believe in evolution?

EvF
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RE: Hello from Singapore!!!
Welcome s.gal83

I hope you have a good stay here

Amp
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#18
RE: Hello from Singapore!!!
Welcome from your neighbors on the east side of the Pacific.


(September 5, 2009 at 10:19 am)s.gal83 Wrote: I will like to explore more before I decide on a particular belief.

Might I suggest exploring your desire to have a particular belief.
What would it mean to you to have a particular belief to live by?
How would it effect the way you live now? What would change?
Do you have a desire to change, and think that having a particular belief will create the change you desire?
Ask not what you believe in, but what beliefs are.
What are their purpose?
Here you will find many people with many different beliefs.
The Theists beliefs are steeped in magic and mythology.
The Anti-thesists beliefs are steeped in scientific facts and reason.
Have Fun
Omjag86
Atheism is a non-prophet organization.
Frisbeetarianism; The belief that when you die your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck...
George Carlin
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