Love of wisdom

[Little Rik]

Philosophy is a Greek word meaning love of wisdom so a philosopher should be one who is interested in wisdom.
First we should understand what is the REAL wisdom.
Is wisdom limited to this physical arena or universe or it goes well beyond his border?
Wisdom put an end to the search for knowledge so if the total wisdom can be acquired within this universe we should not really worried to look elsewhere but as we know that is not possible because peace of mind and happiness are impossible to achieve in this material world.
Anyone saying that he-she is totally happy physically and materially in this material dimension is not telling the truth because within everyone of us something tell us to go ahead all the time.
There is always something to learn and to acquire in a never ending efford and this prevent us from gaining total peace and happiness.
So the real wisdom must be outside this physical world therefore materialism and real wisdom can not go hand in hand.
In other words phylosophy has nothing to do with anyone who pretend to acquire real knowledge by studying physical science.

[Mystic]

Why is peace of mind and happiness impossible to achieve in this world? And perhaps part of wisdom is to realize that we ought to be partially happy and partially in peace, yet partially distressed and in grief (due to problems in this world). We can have moments of happiness and pleasure (like when having sex) and be distressed at other moments and in grief in other moments.

[Tonus]

I was brought up with the impression that wisdom was expressed through action. In other words, a wise person was someone who applied knowledge based on understanding, whereas a stupid person acted in a manner that was contrary to what he understood. The wise person stops at an intersection, checks traffic, then makes an informed decision as to whether or not to cross the street. The stupid person attempts to cross the street without checking traffic, even though he understands the way traffic works at an intersection. He knows he risks being hurt or even killed, yet takes no precautions to safeguard his health or his life.

By that reasoning, the wise person is more likely to prosper and the stupid person is more likely to suffer.

[Little Rik]

Why is peace of mind and happiness impossible to achieve in this world? And perhaps part of wisdom is to realize that we ought to be partially happy and partially in peace, yet partially distressed and in grief (due to problems in this world). We can have moments of happiness and pleasure (like when having sex) and be distressed at other moments and in grief in other moments.

Our essence of life will never be content with PARTIAL HAPPINESS.
When you achieve something (material or physical) in your life that does not last for a very long time.
After a while your search continue and this goes on and on until you die or until you leave your body (if of course you believe in reincarnation).
In other words you will never be able to satisfy your longing for total peace of mind and happiness here in this finite world.
If it is true what you say then there would not be a continuous and incessant push in your mind to keep on looking for a better situation.
Let us not confuse the greed for material things which is unnatural with the desire for peace of mind which is natural.

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I was brought up with the impression that wisdom was expressed through action. In other words, a wise person was someone who applied knowledge based on understanding, whereas a stupid person acted in a manner that was contrary to what he understood. The wise person stops at an intersection, checks traffic, then makes an informed decision as to whether or not to cross the street. The stupid person attempts to cross the street without checking traffic, even though he understands the way traffic works at an intersection. He knows he risks being hurt or even killed, yet takes no precautions to safeguard his health or his life.

By that reasoning, the wise person is more likely to prosper and the stupid person is more likely to suffer.

You are correct when you say that wisdom must be expressed through action.
Shiva gave the system to achieve total peace of mind and happiness 7000 years ago long before the Greek philosophers were born.
Real philosophy involve little theory and big big practice.
Those who pretend to be philosophers by practicing only theory are just a bunch of mental masturbators.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Those who pretend to be philosophers by practicing only theory are just a bunch of mental masturbators.

Maybe, but the orgasms are mind-blowing!

[Whateverist]

Knowledge helps you get what you want. Wisdom helps you want the right things. Or something like that. Whatever.

[Angrboda]

IF this 'WISDOM' exists, then it must exist outside of this existence, according to your argument.

The simplest solution is that your 'WISDOM' does not exist, either here or elsewhere, or that it isn't an existential quantity. Got any evidence that it is, or is this just more religious wishful thinking?

You also implied that because people do not find peace in this life, it is impossible for them to find peace in this life. This does not follow. I may not have found my car keys yet, but that failure is no indication that they cannot be found, period.

I'm inclined to agree that peace can't be had in this life, but not based on some moronic ontological argument.


Oh, and if you don't stop writing in blue text, I'm going to stop reading you and advise others to do likewise.

[Something completely different]

That may be a good thing to start with for you

[Mystic]

Well I think "peace" is in degrees. There is no limit to amount of peace you can have. So you can always want more peace and perhaps we would never be satisfied.

But there is still peace even if there is moments of distress, grief, anger or disappointment.

Moreover, wisdom can be to make the best of the world as it is. There doesn't have to be perfect peace to do that.

[Whateverist]

Moreover, wisdom can be to make the best of the world as it is. There doesn't have to be perfect peace to do that.

Exactly. Peace in settling for less than perfect peace. Peace in accepting the world and yourself as you find them.