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Deconversion process help me
#21
RE: Deconversion process help me
This whole hell thing sounds like a horrid way to modify the behavior of a child. I was never taught to fear anything like this....fucking a folks......
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#22
RE: Deconversion process help me
(June 4, 2013 at 1:09 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: Oh. Then I misunderstood your post. I thought the concept of hell was still bothering you on occasions.

Are there things from your previous faith which continue to pop up and bother you?

Not really. Not to me. The fact that I still have close family members that I love that think bad things about me because I don't believe bother me.

But it's because I see them as trapped in the mindfuck of religion and it makes them act counter to their own personalities. That pisses me off sometimes. Not at them. At religion for religion doing that to them. And to see my brother passing that onto my nephew and neice. That bothers me.

But we just avoid the concept.

I'm actually leaving my kids with my parents for summer bible camp next week like we do every summer. I don't raise my kids religious. But I don't think it's right to not let them learn about religion.

And it makes my parents happy. I just teach my kids that its not necessarily the truth.

My girls can grow up to be Baptists, Mormons, Scientologists, Muslims, I don't care.

I'm still going to love the snot out of them. I just want them to be happy.

My parents, well it matters to them I'm not baptist.

Who gives a crap? I'm not letting religion come between my love for my girls. Not on my side. I'll love them no matter what they decide to believe.

That's the liberation that comes with atheism. Religion doesn't condone or allow that kind of liberation.
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#23
RE: Deconversion process help me
(April 25, 2013 at 12:21 pm)Bohook24 Wrote: How do get rid of these morals and fear of hell that have been branded upon me? What do I do?

Here is a long (but superb) video series talking about deconversion that may help you to cope with your own process.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA0C3C1D163BE880A

Apologies to everyone else, as I've pretty much been spamming it like crazy since I've found it. I pretty much feel like it's one of the best tools atheists have to dispense.

If you have lingering, queasy feelings about morality, do a youtube search for either Christopher Hitchens, or Richard Dawkins, or Sam Harris and religious morality. They will help crystallize atheist morality - it's basically still the golden rule. And it's innate. No need to worry. It was always in you.
Religious but open minded about the arguments of atheists? You may have spent your whole life learning about the arguments for religion. May I present to you 10 segmented hours for the case against it?
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#24
RE: Deconversion process help me
As far as fear of Hell, all it takes is to realize that the human mind will not survive death because our minds reside solely in our brains. Once you brain dies, so does your mind. There is absolutely no evidence for a soul, and even if something like that did exist, how would it feel pain? I think if I did survive death and ended up in Hell, I'd have to laugh at it because I'd know that the fire burning me and the rats gnawing at my entrails aren't real, to borrow a phrase from "The Shining," "Just like pictures in a book."

Secondly, do you really think an all-loving God would create a place to send people to be tortured for eternity? Remember that Heaven is the carrot the religious people promised you, and Hell is the stick. But neither place is real.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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