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Quite a shame how people respond
RE: Quite a shame how people respond
No, if they were the same thing, another word wouldn't exist. But it's not the emotion people put behind it, but the word itself.

"This is utterly useless" could, in the right tone, have the same meaning as "this is shit."
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RE: Quite a shame how people respond
(June 3, 2013 at 12:45 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: No, if they were the same thing, another word wouldn't exist. But it's not the emotion people put behind it, but the word itself.

"This is utterly useless" could, in the right tone, have the same meaning as "this is shit."

He he he....you said shit.
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RE: Quite a shame how people respond
(June 3, 2013 at 12:45 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: No, if they were the same thing, another word wouldn't exist. But it's not the emotion people put behind it, but the word itself.

But you're just using one specific example here to suit your argument. Tongue

There are other sentences where a change of words do communicate a different emotion and/or different meanings.

Ex: "You are stupid" vs. "You are a psychopath." And it becomes worse if you add more insults after that.

Do you not think that different words convey different emotions?
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RE: Quite a shame how people respond
No no, I'm sorry - I wasn't clear.

People aren't responding to the emotion behind the words "shit" or "fuck" when you use them and they get offending by the swearing. They're responding only to the use of those particular words. If they were offended by the actual content, you'd get a much different response.

You could use emotion/tone, etc with similar meaning words to convey almost EXACTLY the same effect. But because we have attached "obscenity" to a handful of words, we get offended by their use more than any other. It's ridiculous.
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RE: Quite a shame how people respond
(June 3, 2013 at 1:04 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: People aren't responding to the emotion behind the words "shit" or "fuck" when you use them and they get offending by the swearing. They're responding only to the use of those particular words. If they were offended by the actual content, you'd get a much different response.

And them getting "offended" usually implies that they felt an emotion from those words. Otherwise, why would they feel offended?

(June 3, 2013 at 1:04 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: But because we have attached "obscenity" to a handful of words, we get offended by their use more than any other. It's ridiculous.

Yeah, but most of the time I don't think it's only those handful of words that offend members here (like "shit" or "fuck"). There are other words of insult which are kind of obscene.

Although, yes, some people are just crybabies and they take offense in the smallest things, unfortunately.
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RE: Quite a shame how people respond
"granny's cunt"

Which of these words is the operator of obscenity? If I were to simply say cunt - sure, some would take offense, but granny's cunt is (likely) worse, so perhaps granny is the word we should avoid? I think the whole bit is really interesting, personally.
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RE: Quite a shame how people respond
Because they think the words are blasphemous.

And because they can complain about the words rather than actually address the argument.
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I've been doing a little research on the psychology of insults and on the witty elements behind it (maybe I'm a nerd for doing that), and I recently found an interesting book on this topic:

A Slap in the Face: Why Insults Hurt -- And Why They Shouldn't
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RE: Quite a shame how people respond
I'm not seeing the blasphemy
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RE: Quite a shame how people respond
(June 3, 2013 at 12:45 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: No, if they were the same thing, another word wouldn't exist. But it's not the emotion people put behind it, but the word itself.

"This is utterly useless" could, in the right tone, have the same meaning as "this is shit."

Naw, naw. Shit is anything but utterly useless, it can be used as fertilizer -- chicken manure, sheep manure. Obviously you're not a country girl. Big Grin
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