As US Drone Strikes Rise in Yemen, So Does Anger

[Dragonetti]

Hmmmm.... I am trying to answer this, but I cannot due to giving out info I do not want too.

aww c'mon pleeaaaasssse

Nope, I rather leave it at this point.

[Minimalist]

Yes, we are. All in the purpose to stabilize the area. So, is most western countries.

We get the attention, because we are the big players, but other countries do the same as us. I am not justifying it. I am explaining leadership thought process.

Can you imagine what would happen if Mexico decided to fire a missile into a house on the American side of the border because of "information" it received that the person inside was planning a crime against Mexico?

[cratehorus]

aww c'mon pleeaaaasssse

Nope, I rather leave it at this point.

the fact is their are plenty of anti-american groups worldwide as well as groups that are ....as you say...targeted by the local government..... but america is not attacking the chinese triads or the bulgarian mafia they are attacking so called al-queda in several (always coincidentally resource/oil rich) nations and we are considered lucky too even know about our own military bombings in pakistan and yemen...........the gov't of deleware is more powerful than the gov't of yemen..... so suggesting that they are "allowing" these drone strikes is wrong........ they simply cannot do anything about it.................... and many "officials" are likely being paid off or being threatened, whether through the US military power or simply their own local/ tribal gov'ts which can hold more sway over certian regions than the legitamized (by UN standards) gov't

[Dragonetti]

Nope, I rather leave it at this point.

the fact is their are plenty of anti-american groups worldwide as well as groups that are ....as you say...targeted by the local government..... but america is not attacking the chinese triads or the bulgarian mafia they are attacking so called al-queda in several (always coincidentally resource/oil rich) nations and we are considered lucky too even know about our own military bombings in pakistan and yemen...........the gov't of deleware is more powerful than the gov't of yemen..... so suggesting that they are "allowing" these drone strikes is wrong........ they simply cannot do anything about it.................... and many "officials" are likely being paid off or being threatened, whether through the US military power or simply their own local/ tribal gov'ts which can hold more sway over certian regions than the legitamized (by UN standards) gov't

Again, we do not go in place not wanted by the local government. This isnt justification. This is there is more than what is covered.

[Minimalist]

Jeremy Scahill was on Bill Maher tonight. When the video is available I will post it here.

He's on point and it isn't only drones.

[Dragonetti]

Jeremy Scahill was on Bill Maher tonight. When the video is available I will post it here.

He's on point and it isn't only drones.

Yes, I saw the video. I will not comment on any of it.

I like my job and want to keep it.

[Violet]

Can you imagine what would happen if Mexico decided to fire a missile into a house on the American side of the border because of "information" it received that the person inside was planning a crime against Mexico?

The US would be all like 'Oh no she didn't!' and write an angrily worded letter. Unless the media go absolutely nuts, and a Bush is in office

[Minimalist]

Jeremy Scahill was on Bill Maher tonight. When the video is available I will post it here.

He's on point and it isn't only drones.

Yes, I saw the video. I will not comment on any of it.

I like my job and want to keep it.

Understood. I'll just post the video for those who haven't seen it.

[Anomalocaris]

I don't understand why Yemeni thinks their will matters or that they should live except for the convenience of the US?

Oh, right, they are humans too. It's so easy to forget that technicality when you are wrapped in red white and blue.

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Their local government has given consent for these types of attacks. They do not have the power to police their occupants. This puts less personnel in danger. The men attacked are usually a target by their own local government.

You overestimate the ability of local government consent in mitigating blowback to the US.

The drone policy has an effect of creating two strata in the Muslim world:

A ruling class that is increasingly ineffectual because it is increasingly hard to balance the need to retain sufficient domestic support to survive, to say nothing of effectively govern.

And a large discontented underclass that increasingly feels a sense of global islamic anti-western solidarity, and inreasingly susceptible to radicalization.

Each collateral casaulty of the drone policy probably moves a thousand previously indifferent street muslims a few percent closer to radicalization.

[Dragonetti]

I don't understand why Yemeni thinks their will matters or that they should live except for the convenience of the US?

Oh, right, they are humans too. It's so easy to forget that technicality when you are wrapped in red white and blue.

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Their local government has given consent for these types of attacks. They do not have the power to police their occupants. This puts less personnel in danger. The men attacked are usually a target by their own local government.

You overestimate the ability of local government consent in mitigating blowback to the US.

The drone policy has an effect of creating two strata in the Muslim world:

A ruling class that is increasingly ineffectual because it is increasingly hard to balance the need to retain sufficient domestic support to survive, to say nothing of effectively govern.

And a large discontented underclass that increasingly feels a sense of global islamic anti-western solidarity, and inreasingly susceptible to radicalization.

Each collateral casaulty of the drone policy probably moves a thousand previously indifferent street muslims a few percent closer to radicalization.

I am aware of the blow back.
Also, I am aware the local governments inability to mitigate the blow back.
The radicalization is the local religious and government blaming westerns for all their problems. They are all greedy with power and money. Most of the power players will sell their local constituents for money, and they blame all problems created on the Western Countries. But, we also back some of the countries government, which causes most of their local problems.
Their arrogance plays a major roll with the people in power.
The local religious groups can and do manipulate the local populous via religion and poverty.