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Quran says the Earth is flat
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Quran says the Earth is flat
[al-Hijr 15:19] And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance.

Since the Quran is the word of God, then this is the information that god spoke to mohammed.

Since we know without a doubt that the Earth is not flat, does this mean god is wrong? Or is this the writings of a delusional man that ended up being a religion?
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RE: Quran says the Earth is flat
I have searched for this specific verse in the Qu'ran and consulted the six available translations (i.e. Sahih Int., Muhsin Khan, Pickthall, Yusuf Ali, Shakir and Dr. Ghali) and it states very clearly that the Earth is flat.
Other verses (2:22; 13:3; 20:53; 43:10, etc.) state the same.
Thus, it seems to be true what you mention in your thread: we have collected a vast heap of evidence that proves the opposite statement (i.e. Earth is an oblate spheriod).

Yet, the Qu'ran as such was not written down by Muhammad in order to present and report scientific data, but for spreading religious teachings.
Furthermore, we must keep in mind that the Qu'ran was written in the 7th century in the Arabic language. It is possible that 'spread out' does not mean 'flat' (although I cannot refute nor accept this statement due to my lack of knowledge about the Arabic language).

So, all I can say is that the writer has made an error and was possibly not known with the findings of Greek scientists (e.g. Eratosthenes).
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RE: Quran says the Earth is flat
Maybe god sees the universe as flat. Like a different perspective on things. God sees the world like I see simcity for example.
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#4
RE: Quran says the Earth is flat
Spread out doesn't mean flat.
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RE: Quran says the Earth is flat
(May 4, 2013 at 5:33 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Spread out doesn't mean flat.

It certainly doesn't mean spherical.
(March 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm)ThatMuslimGuy2 Wrote: Never read anything immoral in the Qur'an.
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RE: Quran says the Earth is flat
<yawn> The koran is full of shit. So what? So is the bible.
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RE: Quran says the Earth is flat
This is how they read that thing:
[Image: 146558_ferrero_rocher.jpg]


See how the wrapper is spread out over the candy? A bit wrinkled and all... sort of like mountains...
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RE: Quran says the Earth is flat
I always took it to mean it's vast and wide.
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RE: Quran says the Earth is flat
(May 4, 2013 at 6:03 pm)pocaracas Wrote: This is how they read that thing:
[Image: 146558_ferrero_rocher.jpg]


See how the wrapper is spread out over the candy? A bit wrinkled and all... sort of like mountains...

I would never say the wrapper was spread out over the candy like a carpet, I would say it's wrapped around the candy, like a candy wrapper.


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RE: Quran says the Earth is flat
I didn't see (like a carpet) in any of the translations I found, but I did find this:

(15:19) As for the earth, We have stretched it out and have cast on it firm mountains, and have caused to grow in it everything well-measured.

which seems to imply the earth is indeed flat.
http://www.islamicstudies.info/tafheem.p...e=16&to=25
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