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RE: why shouldn't adults bully each other?
May 27, 2013 at 11:03 am
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(May 27, 2013 at 10:57 am)dazzn Wrote: people contradict. it's how humans behave.
also, you cited a point, i don't care how you "think". you cited it, so you must have some reasoning behind it.
I said I have morals, they exist, a sense of right or wrong, how can I prove to you that I have a sense of right or wrong? My morals are subjective, as you have said in another thread they are subjective, but you saying this would imply you do believe they exist. Did you change your mind?
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RE: why shouldn't adults bully each other?
May 27, 2013 at 11:07 am
people contradict. i know that morals are subjective, but they don't really exist.
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RE: why shouldn't adults bully each other?
May 27, 2013 at 11:10 am
Does something subjective automatically not exist?
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RE: why shouldn't adults bully each other?
May 27, 2013 at 11:12 am
(May 27, 2013 at 11:07 am)dazzn Wrote: people contradict. i know that morals are subjective, but they don't really exist.
yes but people normally contradict themselves by accident, or because of blatant dishonesty they don't normally say "Hey I'm just a human going about my daily business of contradicting my own arguments"
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RE: why shouldn't adults bully each other?
May 27, 2013 at 11:12 am
of course not.
taste in music is subjective, yet jazz relative to rock exists, does it not?
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RE: why shouldn't adults bully each other?
May 27, 2013 at 11:13 am
(May 27, 2013 at 11:12 am)dazzn Wrote: of course not.
taste in music is subjective, yet jazz relative to rock exists, does it not?
So does taste in music not exist?
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RE: why shouldn't adults bully each other?
May 27, 2013 at 11:13 am
(May 27, 2013 at 11:07 am)dazzn Wrote: people contradict. i know that morals are subjective, but they don't really exist.
There's no grand, overarching Morality with a capital M, I agree. But that's not the end of the conversation: there might not be a set of rules embedded in the universe, but we are real entities existing in a universe that has constants that we can observe. Life is preferable to death, pleasure is preferable to pain, freedom is preferable to slavery; these are just objective facts, and we can use those to construct a fairly complex system of morality, even if the finer details of it vary from person to person.
So no, it doesn't "matter" whether adults do or do not bully each other... but I bet there's a human community that might frown on it anyway.
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RE: why shouldn't adults bully each other?
May 27, 2013 at 11:14 am
(May 27, 2013 at 11:12 am)dazzn Wrote: of course not.
taste in music is subjective, yet jazz relative to rock exists, does it not?
How is morality any different? People have different "tastes" when it comes to morality, after all.
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RE: why shouldn't adults bully each other?
May 27, 2013 at 11:16 am
(May 27, 2013 at 11:07 am)dazzn Wrote: people contradict. i know that morals are subjective, but they don't really exist.
Holy crap, you admit morals exist again? (notice the key word "are" implicitly states blah, blah, blah...)
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RE: why shouldn't adults bully each other?
May 27, 2013 at 11:26 am
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(May 27, 2013 at 11:16 am)catfish Wrote: (May 27, 2013 at 11:07 am)dazzn Wrote: people contradict. i know that morals are subjective, but they don't really exist.
Holy crap, you admit morals exist again? (notice the key word "are" implicitly states blah, blah, blah...)
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people contradict.
(May 27, 2013 at 11:14 am)Psykhronic Wrote: (May 27, 2013 at 11:12 am)dazzn Wrote: of course not.
taste in music is subjective, yet jazz relative to rock exists, does it not?
How is morality any different? People have different "tastes" when it comes to morality, after all.
in my mind, morals don't even exist.
(May 27, 2013 at 11:13 am)Esquilax Wrote: (May 27, 2013 at 11:07 am)dazzn Wrote: people contradict. i know that morals are subjective, but they don't really exist.
There's no grand, overarching Morality with a capital M, I agree. But that's not the end of the conversation: there might not be a set of rules embedded in the universe, but we are real entities existing in a universe that has constants that we can observe. Life is preferable to death, pleasure is preferable to pain, freedom is preferable to slavery; these are just objective facts, and we can use those to construct a fairly complex system of morality, even if the finer details of it vary from person to person.
So no, it doesn't "matter" whether adults do or do not bully each other... but I bet there's a human community that might frown on it anyway.
I see no reason for moral systems. can you cite why we need them?
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