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Chiropractic & Atheism
#41
RE: Chiropractic & Atheism
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#42
RE: Chiropractic & Atheism
(May 31, 2013 at 10:28 pm)Dena Wrote:
(May 29, 2013 at 8:27 pm)festive1 Wrote: I <3 my chiropractor! I don't care if its woo, a massage that's covered by my insurance gets nothing but praise from me Big Grin I always feel slightly taller after an adjustment, very important when one is 5'2''.
I'm 4'9". I've been going for about 4 years now and have yet been made taller. That being said, I love my chiropractor too...even if he is a scientologist.

Not to disbelieve you but I'd need evidence before accepting this.

Chances are that an 'adjustment' to your spine to make you taller would infer issues with your spinal column which may or may not be serious (could be just posture, or could be something like scoliosis [which would obviously show up on an X-ray).

Reading stuff like this : http://www.naturalheightgrowth.com/2012/...ropractor/ makes me call BS if I'm honest. I can't see any medical justification for such claims, but I'm willing to be found to be wrong.

(May 31, 2013 at 10:28 pm)Dena Wrote:
(May 30, 2013 at 4:50 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Consensus in the Studies i've read is that Chiropractors do little to nothing that simple rest couldn't fix.

My spine is fucked. I can see that with my own eyes on the numerous x-rays I've been given. It looks like an old lady spine, not that of a 30 year old woman. It can't be fixed and my chiro admits that it can't be fixed. He can just help with some of the pain. He also adjusts writs, knees and ankles which I find helpful. He doesn't even pretend he's going to make everything better. We both know that isn't possible.

I did see a guy who talked to my head. Seriously, he would ask my head questions. He also insisted that I visit him 3 times a week. That was enough of that. I went back to the other guy who doesn't trying to speak to my organs or tell me how often I need to come into his office.

Well I'm a big supporter of going with whatever works for you, so long as nobody is trying to convince others that it will work universally.

Personally I see CP on par with homoeopathy; feel good placebos that have no basis in medical science. Again, if it works for you, the that's great, and if you've exhausted the conventional medical offerings then I say jut do whatever you need to do to feel [or think] better.

(May 31, 2013 at 10:28 pm)Dena Wrote:
(May 30, 2013 at 4:50 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: My issue with CP is that, in using it as a first port of call, patients may miss a diagnosis by a trained MD for something that could be deadly serious which the CP simply isn't trained for or licensed to examine.

I saw a regular doctor and also did conventional therapy before trying a chiropractor. I still see a regular doctor as well as a specialist (MD) who knows about my chiropractic care. I would recommend everyone have scans and things of that nature done before they go to a chiropractor.

And that's good advice that everyone should follow.
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#43
RE: Chiropractic & Atheism
Note: I said FEEL taller. I doubt that I'm actually taller after an adjustment. I'll also toss out that I have no diagnostic issue with my back, my issue is somatization from trauma. My chiro is aware of this and very amenable to working around problems that arise, such as having flashbacks during chiro treatment. I think a person who believes in a mind/body connection is more likely to be sensitive to these types of issues, hence why I go to the chiro every few weeks rather than an Ortho.
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#44
RE: Chiropractic & Atheism
(June 2, 2013 at 6:21 am)festive1 Wrote: Note: I said FEEL taller. I doubt that I'm actually taller after an adjustment.

I don't know about anyone else but I knew what you meant. I was just joking about not getting any taller myself.

I did see an example today of where chiropractic care gets crazy. Apparently a friend's daughter wiped out at the pool last week and hit her head on concrete. She's three years old. At first she seemed fine but later that night she threw up 11 times. Where did her mother take her? To a pediatrician? No. To a hospital? No. She took her to the chiropractor. Doh
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#45
RE: Chiropractic & Atheism
FWIW - my ex used to have bad lower back / hip pain (supposedly from something to do with the sciatic nerve). She got tweaked once by a CP and got immediate relief (it was her one and only visit to a CP).

The manipulative techniques, I could see that there could be something to, but the woo? Not so much.

Who knows? Wouldn't be my first choice for treatment, but personally, the list of things I'm willing to try gets longer when real medicine fails.
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#46
RE: Chiropractic & Atheism
(June 2, 2013 at 8:18 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Who knows? Wouldn't be my first choice for treatment, but personally, the list of things I'm willing to try gets longer when real medicine fails.

I find myself entertaining a number of things that are questionable since the mainstream medical community hasn't been helping me with some chronic issues that last 12 years. Chiropractic was one of them.
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#47
RE: Chiropractic & Atheism
(June 2, 2013 at 10:59 pm)Dena Wrote:
(June 2, 2013 at 8:18 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Who knows? Wouldn't be my first choice for treatment, but personally, the list of things I'm willing to try gets longer when real medicine fails.

I find myself entertaining a number of things that are questionable since the mainstream medical community hasn't been helping me with some chronic issues that last 12 years. Chiropractic was one of them.

I've had chronic, constant pain for the last 18 months. Nerve damage. The usual pharmaceutical treatments have proven ineffective. I'm actually considering acupuncture. Yes, I think the spiritual aspects of it are woo, but I have little to lose by trying it. One's perspective can change a bit when one's alternatives run out.
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#48
RE: Chiropractic & Atheism
(June 3, 2013 at 2:28 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I've had chronic, constant pain for the last 18 months. Nerve damage. The usual pharmaceutical treatments have proven ineffective. I'm actually considering acupuncture. Yes, I think the spiritual aspects of it are woo, but I have little to lose by trying it. One's perspective can change a bit when one's alternatives run out.

I completely understand. I've had unrelenting pain for years. 24 hours a day, non-stop. Sometimes you start to think, why the hell not try it? Even if all you get is a placebo, when you are living with pain, a placebo is welcome if it dulls the pain. Good luck to you.
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#49
RE: Chiropractic & Atheism
I've heard that acupuncture can bring pain relief. Something to do with nerve clusters being severed by the puncturing and then when they heal it's like you pushed a reset button. It's kind of like how it works with treating phantom pains in limbs that have been severed. It's not unbelievable that some Chinese guy a few thousand years ago accidentally stumbled across a means of relieving pain by ironically doing something that would seem to be counter-productive, didn't know how it worked, and just chalked it up to spiritualistic mumbo-jumbo. We humans are funny like that.
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#50
RE: Chiropractic & Atheism
(June 2, 2013 at 7:15 pm)Dena Wrote:
(June 2, 2013 at 6:21 am)festive1 Wrote: Note: I said FEEL taller. I doubt that I'm actually taller after an adjustment.

I don't know about anyone else but I knew what you meant. I was just joking about not getting any taller myself.

I did see an example today of where chiropractic care gets crazy. Apparently a friend's daughter wiped out at the pool last week and hit her head on concrete. She's three years old. At first she seemed fine but later that night she threw up 11 times. Where did her mother take her? To a pediatrician? No. To a hospital? No. She took her to the chiropractor. Doh
Because concussions should be treated by a chiro?? O.o
I wouldn't take my kids to a chiro...
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