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I Cannot Imagine...
#31
RE: I Cannot Imagine...
(September 14, 2009 at 9:09 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Not in all situations. I think that that is a much to broad explanation. Sometimes things really have happened before on a different day that are similar. But the brain doesn't always keep all the details so you get a feeling of having done something before or having been somewhere before.

Yes, sorry I forgot to mention that DD talked about that first, and also the fact of part of your brain seeing something before the other part (which is another theory). But then he also noted what I said above: that often the brain just makes a 'mistake'.

Sorry for being vague - I think I made a blunder in temporarily thinking that the brain making a 'mistake' covered all of these possibilities since it's broader. Obviously it doesn't, I didn't think, I should have went into more detail.

You're quite right. And to reiterate to be clear - DD indeed did mention the other possibilities for Deja Vu first. I just forgot to mention that.

@ Rhizo. I swear my highly increased regularity of lucid dreams is due to my highly increased scepticism. In the dream I think (obviously), and it it's not believable now I tend to think "Oh, I'm dreaming" and then it becomes lucid (I think). And sometimes I remember thinking in dreams (like last night actually) "Hmm, that's odd" and it's only just about believable, it's not quite out of place enough to become lucid in some cases.

That could all be bullshit. It does seem that way though - and I definitely have had more lucid dreams since I've been more skeptical, whether a coincidence or not.

The majority of my dreams are lucid now I think. I have very many lucid dreams - it's awesome. (Most of the time I just don't remember my dreams, whether I believed them or not).

EvF
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#32
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(September 14, 2009 at 4:37 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote:
(September 14, 2009 at 3:33 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Haha. Maybe Rhiz has a secret.. with me I just willed it. It was crap.

You were doing it wrong, no really, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars. Seriously though, when done correctly you can manipulate your dreams as easy as sculpting modeling clay only on a much grander scale and instantaneously.

I had no problem with the manipulation. The overwhelming experience is entirely false.
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#33
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.... when i sleep.... it is only to rest.... my sleepy eyes....

I am a rather active insomniac Smile In my 4-6 hours, i don't sleep for a long time after closing my eyes... for i am too busy thinking Smile

And hours later... i wake up... still thinking ^_^
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#34
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I find I can't stop thinking either Tongue
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#35
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I suffer from chronic compulsive introspection! Tongue

Sometimes it's fucking awesome, other times it's fucking annoying. Thinking about thinking, thinking about thinking, thoughts getting repetitive and becoming thought loops due to frustration of 'thinking too much' (which has become an (at least seemingly) permanent habit)), etc.

Overall I am glad I'm this way, however annoying and monotonous it can be sometimes - overall I like it, I like being more 'self'-aware.

This is why I say that IMO the term 'thinking too much' and 'over analysing' is an oxymoron (hence the scare quotes), I don't think it's a matter of amount, it's not how much you think - it's just plain how - how you do the thinking - that matters IMO.

There is no such thing as over analysing, there is only analysing badly - amateur analysing Wink - IMO. If you think you're over analysing you're just doing it wrong I say. I think it's always possible to analyse right.

Just as how so long as your thinking overall is constructive - you can never be too critical (So long as it does more good than bad overall).

Sorry for the rant, I just feel like if I deleted any of the detail in this particular post, it would fall short of my expression of this matter.

EvF
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#36
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Makes sense to me Smile But doesn't everyone do that? Or is it just you and me? Tongue ^_^
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#37
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I know that not everyone does. Because I used to be the exact opposite, I was very unaware of my self, because I spent my whole life thinking about AoC and I had never idea what other stuff was lurking through the back of my mind Wink. I was very very narrow because of this. Now I'm the opposite - I've flipped. I now so love being self-aware and don't want to be unaware again, that I am obsessively self-aware now.

From what I observe, IMO many many people go through their life doing their jobs, etc, etc - without thinking about thinking much. Then there are others that do - but I bet there are far less that do it to the obsessively compulsive state that I do!

Even some people with OCD may not, since their obsessiveness may often be more externalized - obsessing about habits on the outside, etc, as it often is (although people do get it about thinking).

I am a bit obsessive on the outside in some cases though Wink I check the front and back door to make sure they're both locked, about 5--20 times each night Wink

That's fucking nothing compared to how obsessive my thoughts are though. With my thoughts I think the same word or two thousands of times over, for a day or several days...or more.

And I write about the thought I'm thinking about (which is either one word or two (or very rarely - three)) - or perhaps we should say, 'meditating on' - down on my MSN status and other places. Because it seems to help me to externalize it. I think it helps stop me going mad LOL. It helps stop my thoughts becoming a nastily obsessive, perpetually repetitive blur.

EvF
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#38
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The only problem I have is if I think about something exclusively for too long/ until I'm too tired I get stuck in a monotonous repetitive loop which is hard to break out of. To be healthy and be able to think better you have to pay attention to your bodies needs.

I leave back and front doors unlocked and sometimes wide open.
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#39
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Sae,

I am a horrible insomniac and have done many strange things to beat it without much continuous success (All methods became ineffectual after a few weeks). I have found that Melatonin will put me down quite nicely and Vallarien root will keep me asleep. Just try them and you will see.

EvF,

I hear you on the compulsive introspection. I often get caught up analyzing myself to the point of doing nothing. I used to suffer from social anxiety so bad that I never left the house and I was sick at school to the point of leaving. I no longer suffer from that at all and I have also learned to dial down my introspection, after all, navel gazing is very close to cramming your head right up your ass! It is a great thing to figure yourself out but it is much more important to figure out the interactions between you and everyone else and what is your problem and what is their's.

As for no such thing as overanalyzing... I have been involved with several "taskforce" teams (I don't know what you mean by "scare quotes" I use quotes to indicate jargon or things not meant to be taken literally) where overanalysis killed our productivity. At Intel "risk taking" is a core company value. They made it a core value to speed up innovation; I think without it there would be a lot of "analysis paralysis" a state where everyone is caught up in covering every angle, such that no real progress is made.

Rhizo
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#40
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Paranoia is GOOD... until it becomes an extreme Smile One needs to trust in at least something... without that trust: they go insane Confused

The vehicle's needs are less important to me than is the driver's. And the passenger's needs are almost as important as the driver's needs are. I am the driver, my body the vehicle, and my close friends are along for the ride.

And my road leads from prison... to a repair shop... and from there to my life on the open road Tongue
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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