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[Godscreated]

Godshield why do you keep repeating the same nonsence despite it being disproved already?


Do you actualy care what other peoples opinions are? Do you care what the truth is? Do you care about evidence? Or are you simply here to have a platform for yourself to repeat yourself?

I'm very consistent in what I believe, that's why I say the same things over and over. If peoples beliefs are different than mine... well that's their privilege, but do not expect me to change what I believe, I'm true to myself not wishy washy as to many are. I also speak the truth as I see it, no different than you do, you know if you were to ask different questions instead of the same old things you might get new answers. You nor anyone else has come close to disproving anything I've said, kinda hard to do when the only things you can say is GC you're retarded, stupid, ridiculous, uncaring ect. Besides how do you disprove God when you do not believe He exists, as you say you have no belief, thus you can have no proof.

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This statement of your's is in support of scripture, hard to shake the past. God say's those that do evil do it in the darkness to keep it hidden from others. The reason serial killers do anything considered good in the light is to hide their evil acts, so their supposed good is an evil act of disguise and deceit.

If I hear one more "the sh'cript'shr says" or "support from the sh'cript'shr" I swear to Kthulu I'm gonna buy a gun. And ammo. That's quite an involved process where I live, I'll probably have to become a police office or hunter or something... and that involves a lot of work, so it's an empty threat, but still! Maybe I'll just drive a car into a tree, just to vent steam and make the insurance company pay for the dogmatic horse manure spewed here. But someone will pay... ah, maybe I'll just go to sleep

Yes go to sleep and let the adults proceed.

[Something completely different]

I'm very consistent in what I believe, that's why I say the same things over and over. If peoples beliefs are different than mine... well that's their privilege, but do not expect me to change what I believe, I'm true to myself not wishy washy as to many are. I also speak the truth as I see it, no different than you do, you know if you were to ask different questions instead of the same old things you might get new answers. You nor anyone else has come close to disproving anything I've said, kinda hard to do when the only things you can say is GC you're retarded, stupid, ridiculous, uncaring ect. Besides how do you disprove God when you do not believe He exists, as you say you have no belief, thus you can have no proof.

You are aware of the fact that the concept of truth includes the characteristic that it is being independent from opinion?

[Ryantology]

Why shouldn't women take responsibility for their bodies before hand, condoms would eliminate many abortions, abortions are harder on a women's body than prevention. It only seems reasonable doesn't, what woman doesn't know this, and this would also help in slowing down STD's. So until women can show responsibility for their bodies and quit killing innocent life, I'll be complaining. Yes I would rather see women and men practice abstinence according to God's will and if they did that too would be a choice.

Why is it not wrong when God causes miscarriages?

Since I do not see this as a normal life even before I became a Christian, I still do not think homosexuals should have the right to marry, it's not natural and adds nothing to a society.

Abortion is murder and homosexuality is not part of the natural order.[/quote]

The number of species which practice homosexual behavior is much larger than the number of species which practice religion. Therefore, religion is a worse evil than homosexuality.

God did not have to think it was important, in His omniscience He knew it was the only way to express real love.

I know you're too far gone to be phased by the truth, but there it is, nonetheless.

The free will given us by God is about choosing between Him and ourselves, then the righteousness of God will either be a part of us or it want, if not then one may choose abortion. So you see it's not about choosing to do right and wrong, God showed that through the Israelites. It's about choosing to live in a relationship with Him and allowing His righteousness to be a part of our lives. Christians do not always do that and sometimes screw up royally. When we do we repent and try and return to a living relationship with Him.

Demanding that a person ignore their own wants and desires and give them all their attention is not the foundation of a relationship based upon love. That's obsessive, controlling, frightening behavior, and all the more so when refusing that relationship means being punished.

If God really gave humans free will, it would be the freedom to refuse his love without penalty. If God really loved people, he would not place so many ridiculous conditions upon it. The worst lies Christians tell always involve the word "love". Your God is not about love. Your God is about himself, and only himself. Only his will matters. Only his opinion is valid. You are a piece of shit and deserve nothing.

God calls that type of relationship an abomination, how else should one who wants to live in a relationship with God disagree with His omniscient being. God says it is an unnatural relationship, He being the creator should know this correct? Do not misunderstand me I believe homosexuals should be afforded many of the rights we all do, except that of marriage and the things that come with that.

God was okay with polygamy. Are you?

I'm all for your expression of the free will God has given all of mankind, the problem here is you do not understand what that free will is. Let me explain, the free will God affords us is to choose between Him and ourselves as I said above and when I choose to accept Christ I have chosen to accept His righteousness and to support it even if it cost me this life. If you choose not to accept Christ, then you have rejected God's righteousness and will live as you want to and support what you see as right. Now here's the thing about this free will we have, when we make our choice for or against God all bets are off on choosing, there will be a punishment for choosing wrong no matter if you choose God or not. In other words your and my free will ends at our choice between God or ourselves. You want to twist God's love around to suit your choice of rejecting Him, it does not hold water with God.

You want to twist God's obsessive, murderous jealousy so that it resembles love.

[Rahul]

Why shouldn't women take responsibility for their bodies before hand, condoms would eliminate many abortions, abortions are harder on a women's body than prevention. It only seems reasonable doesn't, what woman doesn't know this, and this would also help in slowing down STD's. So until women can show responsibility for their bodies and quit killing innocent life, I'll be complaining. Yes I would rather see women and men practice abstinence according to God's will and if they did that too would be a choice.

Oh, like women are never raped by strangers? Little girls are never raped by male family members, male friends of the family, or male authority figures?

Whatever dude. In predominately catholic countries where they have illegalized abortion it's led to a higher death rate among pregnant women.

Why? Because they place huge burdens on the doctors that they are not allowed to perform an abortion except under very strict and narrow reasons. The problem is that the doctors are so scared to be accused of performing an "illegal and unecessary" abortion and have their entire careers utterly destroyed, and face jail time, that they delay performing an abortion.

Even if it's an ectopic pregnancy, the woman has internal bleeding, the need to perform surgery is dire, needed without delay, that women die.

They fucking die. This is happening NOW in certain countries. It just happened to a woman in Ireland a month or two ago. It happens in a couple countries in South America on a regular basis.

But let's forget the legitimate practioners.

Back alley abortions are a major cause of death, infections, all kinds of horrible injuries to women that are forced to seek unofficial abortion practioners. It happened in America too back when abortion was illegal.

Since I do not see this as a normal life even before I became a Christian, I still do not think homosexuals should have the right to marry, it's not natural and adds nothing to a society.

Here's the difference between you theists and us atheists. I don't agree with you, ok, whatever. You don't agree with me you pass legislation illegalizing it.

That's the PROBLEM.

You don't agree with gays getting married. Don't marry another member of your own gender. It's not your business to dictate to other people what they should do with THEIR life as long as they are not harming other people.

Two grown, consenting men want to get married. You don't agree with it. Fine. Don't go to their wedding.

But to illegalize it? How would you like gays dictating to YOU through law how you can live your life?

That's the PROBLEM.

Abortion is murder and homosexuality is not part of the natural order.

Once again, not everyone agrees with you. Including biological scientists. Until the higher brain functions kick on in the later part of pregnancy, it aint' a human.

If you were in a car wreck and lost all your higher brain functions, YOU are gone. Your body might still be breathing but your personality, your memories, your habits, it's all GONE. Everything that made you, you is gone. You aren't there any more. It's just a breathing corpse.

You don't agree with this logic? That's fine. I am magnanimous enough to allow you to disagree and NOT take away your rights to do what you think is right.

Can the rest of us have the same courtesy from you?

God did not have to think it was important, in His omniscience He knew it was the only way to express real love.

First prove he exists. Then prove why he did what he did. Till then, whatever. You have as much proof as a Muslim. None.

The free will given us by God is about choosing between Him and ourselves, then the righteousness of God will either be a part of us or it want, if not then one may choose abortion. So you see it's not about choosing to do right and wrong, God showed that through the Israelites. It's about choosing to live in a relationship with Him and allowing His righteousness to be a part of our lives. Christians do not always do that and sometimes screw up royally. When we do we repent and try and return to a living relationship with Him.

Dude, I grew up in church. My grandpa was a deacon. My mom has played Church piano for 50 years. I went every Sunday morning, evening, and Wednesday evening. I've had enough sermons.

God calls that type of relationship an abomination, how else should one who wants to live in a relationship with God disagree with His omniscient being. God says it is an unnatural relationship, He being the creator should know this correct? Do not misunderstand me I believe homosexuals should be afforded many of the rights we all do, except that of marriage and the things that come with that.

Once again. Prove he exists first and foremost. Until you get that bare minimum of a starting point you're just babbling made up crap.

Thor calls you a turd. He says you must drink your own urine or you will not be worthy to join him in the clouds to hurl lightning bolts alongside of him.

Hey, we have the exact same level of legitimacy!

Or do you want me to type it up, print it out, bind it, make a couple thousand copies, start a cult, raise some kids to believe it, and wait around for a couple centuries until my cult of Thor has a larger population than your cult of Yahweh?

Because that's pretty much how your cult of Yahweh started. Just some dudes scribbled it down, passed it around, taught it to their kids, and let the years roll by. "I believe it because mommy and daddy believe it and taught me about it! I'm going to do the same things to my kids!"

[catfish]

Here's the difference between you theists and us atheists. I don't agree with you, ok, whatever. You don't agree with me you pass legislation illegalizing it.

That's the PROBLEM.

You don't agree with gays getting married. Don't marry another member of your own gender. It's not your business to dictate to other people what they should do with THEIR life as long as they are not harming other people.

Two grown, consenting men want to get married. You don't agree with it. Fine. Don't go to their wedding.

But to illegalize it? How would you like gays dictating to YOU through law how you can live your life?

That's the PROBLEM.

Gay marriage isn't illegal, what's the PROBLEM?
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[Rahul]

Gay marriage isn't illegal, what's the PROBLEM?

Semantics?

How many states legally recognize with all the rights and benefits thereof homosexual marriage in the United States of America?

5 or 6? I know it's not legal here in Texas. Things that are not legal are illegal. If you don't agree with that last sentence please tell me the word that is the opposite of legal. No, we don't dictate fines or jail terms for homosexuals engaging in a wedding ceremony. We just ignore it and deny them equal rights.

Including death and social security benefits to minors who are children of the deceased that were not the biological parent of the minor.

Including veteran benefits that deceased Veterans can pass on to their children such as GI Bill benefits like college funds, healthcare, etc.

Second class citizens. Public dissaproval and outright disgust.

If this is ok for us to treat our own lawfully abiding citizens like this in America then you must agree with the Jim Crow laws and segregation for African Americans. Oh, are you offended by that accusation? Now you know how we feel about your trying to treat homosexuals in a similar status.

[catfish]

blah blah blah... Next you'll be campaigning for same-sex mixed doubles tennis matches...

[Rahul]

blah blah blah... Next you'll be campaigning for same-sex mixed doubles tennis matches...

I don't know you. You may be yanking my chain.

I'm going to go troll in the corner somewhere.

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This statement of your's is in support of scripture, hard to shake the past. God say's those that do evil do it in the darkness to keep it hidden from others. The reason serial killers do anything considered good in the light is to hide their evil acts, so their supposed good is an evil act of disguise and deceit.

Yeah. I know.

I don't contend that the humans that wrote the various books that eventually comprised the bible were completely oblivious about human nature. I only contend it's not the word of god.

There is some basic wisdom found in the bible. Which is to be expected for any text discussing how to live one's life written by a social animal to other social animals.

If you do something that you know the greater society will dissaprove of, you will naturally not want various members of your society to witness it and tell everyone. So you would avoid the prying eyes of other members.

Shadows and darkness would assist this objective.

[Brakeman]

Gay marriage isn't illegal, what's the PROBLEM?

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If this is ok for us to treat our own lawfully abiding citizens like this in America then you must agree with the Jim Crow laws and segregation for African Americans.

A catfish or a godschild of the 1900's could have been named Charles Carroll

"In 1900, Charles Carroll wrote a book entitled The Negro a Beast; or, In the Image of God. Carroll concludes in the book that the White race was made in the image and likeness of God and that Adam gave birth to the White race only, while Negros are pre-Adamite beasts and could not possibly have been made in God's image and likeness because they are beastlike, immoral and ugly.[13] Carroll claimed that the pre-Adamite races, such as blacks, did not have souls. Carroll believed that race mixing was an insult to God and spoiled God's racial plan of creation. According to Carroll, the mixing of races had also lead to the errors of atheism and evolution.[14]" - From Wikipedia (The book is an enlightening read)

Charles Carroll defended his racism with the bible, Catfish and godschild defend their homophobia with the bible.

[Walking Void]

Godshield why do you keep repeating the same nonsence despite it being disproved already?


Do you actualy care what other peoples opinions are? Do you care what the truth is? Do you care about evidence? Or are you simply here to have a platform for yourself to repeat yourself?

I'm very consistent in what I believe, that's why I say the same things over and over. If peoples beliefs are different than mine... well that's their privilege, but do not expect me to change what I believe, I'm true to myself not wishy washy as to many are.

...Right.

Which of course, is why You adopted christianity at a young age instead of being a christian from the start.

From the moment You were born You would need to be capable of professing belief in god. But like all of us, You were occupied crying and pooping and feeding and being mentally stimulated by the people around You. Christianity is granted, not gifted.

If You were born hindu, You would be raised hindu, not as a christian.