The reemerging of feminism in politics

[Minimalist]

A story from the local paper a few days ago.

http://www.azcentral.com/business/news/a...a-few.html

Top leadership at Arizona’s publicly traded companies remains largely an all-male club, even after a year marked by notable advances by female executives.

Female CEOs now run two Arizona-based public companies, up from one, and more women are joining the ranks of the state’s highest-paid business leaders.

About 60 percent of Arizona corporations report that their five or so highest-paid positions are filled by men, although larger public companies are more likely to have a senior woman in their executive ranks.

Don't trust men. They are quick to point to tokenism as proof of something that does not exist.

[Tiberius]

Personally I think that modern Feminism is important. I don't think that woman are being discriminated against as a whole, but there are pockets. It is important to fight for those right in those pockets. I would like to also point out that in those pockets it is not just women who are discriminated against.

I really hope you didn't mean "modern Feminism", because the "modern feminists" seem to me to be the ones focusing on making a fuss about nothing rather than about something. They make ridiculous claims like "all men are potential rapists" without accepting the reality of woman-on-man rape, and refuse to accept that the "gender gap" in wages isn't as prominent when you consider the fact that a lot of women take time out of the workforce to raise children.

Feminism, as in, a movement for the equal treatment of women in society and under the law, is a noble and just goal. However, that is the old version of feminism, and it bears almost no resemblance to the modern feminism that is so vocal today. Old feminism is something I can support; modern feminism is not. They lie, they accuse, and they insult people who have done absolutely nothing wrong.

Top leadership at Arizona’s publicly traded companies remains largely an all-male club, even after a year marked by notable advances by female executives.

Female CEOs now run two Arizona-based public companies, up from one, and more women are joining the ranks of the state’s highest-paid business leaders.

About 60 percent of Arizona corporations report that their five or so highest-paid positions are filled by men, although larger public companies are more likely to have a senior woman in their executive ranks.

There are reasons for this other than "men hate women and keep them from succeeding". Yes, there may be some sexism still in the workplace, but there are other more important reasons to consider, like the fact that most women choose educational subjects which do not provide much of a career afterwards, or take time out of their work to raise children, putting them behind the men who continue to advance up the corporate ladder as it were.

[Savannahw]

I see modern feminism as continuing to support gender equality when facing discrimination. What you are calling modern feminism I call people who have issues. I think we are just at a misunderstanding of terms here.

[Tartarus Sauce]

I see modern feminism as continuing to support gender equality when facing discrimination. What you are calling modern feminism I call people who have issues. I think we are just at a misunderstanding of terms here.

This is the point I made. The types of people who do what Tiberius described have essentially hijacked the feminist label. The actual goals of old feminism are applaudable.

[Something completely different]

As stated in the article, reasonable people are disrupted in their work by a frindge.

[Tiberius]

I see modern feminism as continuing to support gender equality when facing discrimination. What you are calling modern feminism I call people who have issues. I think we are just at a misunderstanding of terms here.

Glad to hear it. I just don't understand why you would label something "modern feminism" when it's clearly the old (original) form of feminism. It's like labeling Bertrand Russel a "new atheist".

I also think the use of the word "feminism" to describe the entire of the gender equality movement is rather backwards. Gender equality applies to males, females, transsexuals, and heck, even hermaphrodites. The use of the word "female" as a stem in the word "feminism" comes across as putting female equality before any other, and it always will (to me anyway).

I can call myself a feminist, a men's rights activist, a support of gay rights, etc. but it's much easier to call myself an egalitarian because it encompasses everything, and all inequality is worth fighting against.

[Savannahw]

I could come up with a few reasons why I label it that way. But the truth is we have two different perceptions of the label Modern Feminism. Its not bad that we see it differently we just do. I also agree that all inequality is worth fight against and to achieve those means you can call yourself anything for all I care.