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RE: Hypocrisy of Teachers
July 9, 2013 at 8:29 pm
Don't drink the Koolay, Stimbo!
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Hypocrisy of Teachers
July 10, 2013 at 12:15 am
(July 9, 2013 at 12:14 pm)Koolay Wrote: That is not true, teachers are minions and propagandists of the state, they abuse children to break them into the status quo mould of obedience to the hierarchy.
That is not true, teachers take advantage of the state's violence and make a living out of propagandising and abusing children into fascists. Everyone in the government is a cancer, there is no good amount of government since the government is inherently contradictory and evil, including the 'teacher' minions. I can not wait until all of those parasites under the banner of government are dropped off at the deep end, and forced to get a real job when the government inevitably runs out of money.
Dear God, what happened to you?
You seem to have had a terrible childhood. Parents beating and abusing you, teachers abusing and brainwashing you. How-how did you survive all that and not become a super-villain?
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RE: Hypocrisy of Teachers
July 10, 2013 at 4:43 am
(July 9, 2013 at 12:14 pm)Koolay Wrote: (July 9, 2013 at 8:30 am)Ben Davis Wrote: That depends entirely on the role you're performing; one might work for the Axis of Evil but only be a receptionist or tea-server. Teachers are not responsible for taxation or the enforcement of taxation no matter how you spin it.
That is not true, teachers are minions and propagandists of the state, they abuse children to break them into the status quo mould of obedience to the hierarchy.
(July 9, 2013 at 8:30 am)Ben Davis Wrote: Teachers are as much victims of poor fiscal management as any other tax-payer.
That is not true, teachers take advantage of the state's violence and make a living out of propagandising and abusing children into fascists. Everyone in the government is a cancer, there is no good amount of government since the government is inherently contradictory and evil, including the 'teacher' minions. I can not wait until all of those parasites under the banner of government are dropped off at the deep end, and forced to get a real job when the government inevitably runs out of money. Before we go any deeper down the rabbit hole, I just wanted to clear something up: so you're an Anarchist then? If so, what's your preferred social model?
Sum ergo sum
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RE: Hypocrisy of Teachers
July 10, 2013 at 6:10 am
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2013 at 6:14 am by bennyboy.)
"That is not true, teachers are minions and propagandists of the state, they abuse children to break them into the status quo mould of obedience to the hierarchy."
I think we've gone out of rational discussion and into proselytism here. Fucking "minions?" Really?
I'm pretty new here, and I don't know about the rules, but I feel it's almost time to move out of the rational discussion phase and into the name-calling, picture-posting phase. Koolay is either a sociopath, a troll, or both. But I just don't see this kind of rhetoric EVER couching anything but militant BS.
I don't think there's been a rational argument yet, in 6 pages of thread, that is supported by anything more than "fucking guvmint and its violent propagandism fascist fucking capitalist pig. . ." wait a minute, I know what you are-- you're a pinko! Because only a communist would omit "atheist" from that list.
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RE: Hypocrisy of Teachers
July 10, 2013 at 6:29 am
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2013 at 6:29 am by Ben Davis.)
(July 10, 2013 at 6:10 am)bennyboy Wrote: Fucking "minions?" Really?
Nowt wrong wi'minions.
Sum ergo sum
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RE: Hypocrisy of Teachers
July 10, 2013 at 7:48 am
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2013 at 7:50 am by Koolay.)
(July 10, 2013 at 4:43 am)Ben Davis Wrote: (July 9, 2013 at 12:14 pm)Koolay Wrote: That is not true, teachers are minions and propagandists of the state, they abuse children to break them into the status quo mould of obedience to the hierarchy.
That is not true, teachers take advantage of the state's violence and make a living out of propagandising and abusing children into fascists. Everyone in the government is a cancer, there is no good amount of government since the government is inherently contradictory and evil, including the 'teacher' minions. I can not wait until all of those parasites under the banner of government are dropped off at the deep end, and forced to get a real job when the government inevitably runs out of money. Before we go any deeper down the rabbit hole, I just wanted to clear something up: so you're an Anarchist then? If so, what's your preferred social model?
It's not so much my 'preffered' social model, as you would like KFC, I would like Mcdonalds - Anarcho Capitalism is the one and only way that people can organise rationally, Since complete respect for people and property rights is universally preferable and logical.
I am not an Anarcho Capitalist because I feel like it, I am because it is the only right system, it does not fail it's own test of logic.
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RE: Hypocrisy of Teachers
July 10, 2013 at 7:57 am
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2013 at 8:05 am by genkaus.)
(July 10, 2013 at 7:48 am)Koolay Wrote: It's not so much my 'preffered' social model, as you would like KFC, I would like Mcdonalds - Anarcho Capitalism is the one and only way that people can organise rationally, Since complete respect for people and property rights is universally preferable and logical.
I am not an Anarcho Capitalist because I feel like it, I am because it is the only right system, it does not fail it's own test of logic.
And how do you propose human and property rights would be enforced in this model of yours? Your so called "only-the-right" system, fails the test of reality.
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RE: Hypocrisy of Teachers
July 10, 2013 at 8:06 am
(July 10, 2013 at 7:57 am)genkaus Wrote: (July 10, 2013 at 7:48 am)Koolay Wrote: It's not so much my 'preffered' social model, as you would like KFC, I would like Mcdonalds - Anarcho Capitalism is the one and only way that people can organise rationally, Since complete respect for people and property rights is universally preferable and logical.
I am not an Anarcho Capitalist because I feel like it, I am because it is the only right system, it does not fail it's own test of logic.
And how do you propose human and property rights would be enforced in this model of yours?
By waving a magical wand?
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RE: Hypocrisy of Teachers
July 10, 2013 at 8:23 am
I've never understood why people that believe the government to be oppressive and abusive think that private corporations could be trusted to fill that role responsibly. To think that the free market could keep that kind of abuse of power in check is to think the moon is made of cheese.
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RE: Hypocrisy of Teachers
July 10, 2013 at 8:33 am
(July 10, 2013 at 8:23 am)Faith No More Wrote: I've never understood why people that believe the government to be oppressive and abusive think that private corporations could be trusted to fill that role responsibly. To think that the free market could keep that kind of abuse of power in check is to think the moon is made of cheese.
“People act like government is a big building, with arms and legs, walking around doing shit. The government is human beings, and the reason government sucks, is because none of the human beings have any fucking common sense!” - Lewis Black
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