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RE: atheism a culture or an idea?
July 20, 2013 at 4:12 pm
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(July 20, 2013 at 4:03 pm)christcahinkilla Wrote: lol like agnostic atheism conflating?
I know but...
I don't know.
the hypocrisy that is flowing through the atheist cult(ure) is the exact same as what i have seen in religion. What "atheist culture" do you see, where do you see it, what's the nature of your involvement? What hypocrisy, specifically, is engaged in by this "atheist culture".
Quote:the government structure of the theism culture is based on their non-presently-provable dieties and people that have written their books.
That doesn't sound even remotely close to a government structure - that's just a statement of beliefs.
Quote:there is a government structure in any culture. are you a people that consider yourselves intellectuals and form under the principles of chaos?
A people? Take a breath......
Quote:is charlie darkwing your leader? your one god? how are you different from theism cultures?
Who is Charlie Darkwing?
How am I personally different from someone part and party to a "theistic culture" - mostly that I don't believe in their god. Mostly isn't the right word..actually..as stated that's the -only- discernable difference between myself and such a person.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: atheism a culture or an idea?
July 20, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Quote:How am I personally different from someone part and party to a "theistic culture" - mostly that I don't believe in their god. Mostly isn't the right word..actually..as stated that's the -only- discernable difference between myself and such a person.
and the similarity between you both is that you both don't know the truth about your belief/disbelief
you have a war based on nothing...but 'they started it"
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RE: atheism a culture or an idea?
July 20, 2013 at 4:25 pm
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You seem to know so much about me. 
There is no similarity expressed between us in your statement. They believe, I do not, and this is all either marker (atheism/theism) is qualified to speak upon.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: atheism a culture or an idea?
July 20, 2013 at 4:43 pm
Atheism is nothing. It's the non-belief of a single kind of claim. Really, for every claim that has been made in history that you don't believe, you're an atheist, relative to that claim.
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RE: atheism a culture or an idea?
July 20, 2013 at 5:01 pm
ok so what your trying to say is that you don't know?
well done.
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RE: atheism a culture or an idea?
July 20, 2013 at 5:07 pm
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(July 20, 2013 at 4:03 pm)christcahinkilla Wrote: lol like agnostic atheism conflating?
I know but...
I don't know.
Agnostic atheism is...
I don't know, but...
there is no justification to believe.
Do you see the different words used above? The first line uses 'know', the second uses 'believe'.
Again, you may want research the meanings of 'knowledge' and 'belief', your confusion stems from your misunderstanding of them.
Let's try this a different way in hopes that it may sink in. What the heck, I'm an optimist.
Belief is the psychological state where one holds a premise or proposition to be true. This is the definition considered the most accurate by the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, one of the leading publications on the subject.
Do you agree with that definition?
To be a theist, one has to have the active belief that a god or gods exist.
If you don't have an active belief that a god exists, you are an atheist.
It really can't get much more simple. There is nothing else to it. All the other baggage you are attempting to load onto atheism, is disingenuous.
That's it. One response to one claim.
Claim - a god exists
Response - I don't believe your claim
= atheism (without the belief in a god)
Quote:is charlie darkwing your leader? your one god? how are you different from theism cultures?
How are we different? We don't have a god, dogma, doctrine, or anything else (besides our disbelieve in the existence of gods) that identifies us. We require: demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument and valid & sound logic to support our beliefs.
If a claim does not meet the above criteria, there is no justification to believe.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: atheism a culture or an idea?
July 20, 2013 at 5:25 pm
(July 20, 2013 at 5:01 pm)christcahinkilla Wrote: ok so what your trying to say is that you don't know?
well done. For me?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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July 20, 2013 at 5:40 pm
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RE: atheism a culture or an idea?
July 20, 2013 at 8:14 pm
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If there's one thing in life I've learned, it's that some people will invent any reason they can to look down their noses at everyone else. Most of the time it's because they themselves lack confidence and feel shunned and/or unaccepted by others.
Sometimes, however, they are just trying to compensate for physical inadecquacies...
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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