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(September 28, 2009 at 1:13 am)GrayAreas Wrote: How is anyone supposed to know what is supposed to be taken literally or not?
There's this thing, called a brain? Yeah, people with one tend to use it. As expressed by Galileo Galilei, "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forego their use."
Yes, thank you, now I know that everyone has a brain. Forums have paid off already. What you don't understand is that everyone's brain works DIFFERENTLY! You can go to dictionary.com if you're unsure of the meaning of that word. Who is to say which lines are to be taken literally or not if everyone's brain works DIFFERENTLY??? Thank you for quoting Galileo to show me that we should be using our brains. It was difficult for me to reach to that level of intellectuality... If you're unsure, I'm using sarcasm. You can look up the definition of that word while you're looking up the definition for differently. (Kill two birds with one stone)
I, for one, have never considered reading a text to be an insoluble task. I find it very strange indeed that you consider the task to be insurmountably problematic. And yet for some reason you seem to get along well enough with forums. Ah well.
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)
(September 28, 2009 at 2:28 am)Arcanus Wrote: I, for one, have never considered reading a text to be an insoluble task. I find it very strange indeed that you consider the task to be insurmountably problematic. And yet for some reason you seem to get along well enough with forums. Ah well.
Well it HAS been!
How many people have died because someone interpreted something in a book?
You're welcome to be as ignorant of that fact as you like, it does not make it less true.
Oh wait, i hear the no true Scotsman coming over the hills....
And as for his(Gray's) forum history: I happen to know from talking to him that it was because he felt there was too much censorship and moderation on the forums he did visit, something that certainly isn't the case here (Credit to Adrian and the Mods), but it's typical of you to jump to conclusions Arcanus, after all, you Christians don't even need evidence to believe you've got the answer.
(September 28, 2009 at 2:42 am)theVOID Wrote: How many people have died because someone interpreted something in a book?
What does someone being put to death for an interpretation have to do with how interpretation is done? A baffling non-sequitur, that. Almost equally as baffling as your ad hominem attack ("Typical of you to jump to conclusions, Arcanus; after all, you Christians don't even need evidence to believe you've got the answer").
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)
(September 28, 2009 at 2:42 am)theVOID Wrote: How many people have died because someone interpreted something in a book?
What does someone being put to death for an interpretation have to do with how interpretation is done? A baffling non-sequitur, that. Almost equally as baffling as your ad hominem attack ("Typical of you to jump to conclusions, Arcanus; after all, you Christians don't even need evidence to believe you've got the answer").
That is the issue at hand!
You said that God gave us reason to be able to interpret the book effectively but that is often not what happens, there are MANY instances of people using their reasoning and getting horrific results, using this same reason that you have claimed was a gift from God.
This is the same God who is omnipresent, who knew fully that the logic and reason he gave to humans was inadequate and would subsequently cause the deaths of millions of people because they lacked the capacity to interpret the book the way he intended, but it gets worse, because the only reason that they were required to interpret the book in the first place, was because God did not bother to ensure that it was clear and concise to begin with.
(September 28, 2009 at 4:04 am)fr0d0 Wrote: That's called trolling VOID.
Not my definition of trolling, i gave him a negative rep because over the last few posts in various threads he has chosen to stack up more questions, challenge the terminology and structure of the question and ignore it completely rather than actually give a damn answer.
(September 28, 2009 at 1:13 am)GrayAreas Wrote: How is anyone supposed to know what is supposed to be taken literally or not?
There's this thing, called a brain? Yeah, people with one tend to use it. As expressed by Galileo Galilei, "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forego their use."
Oh, you're a laugh....
The same God who couldn't supervise the coherent authorship of his own word?
The same god who, by being all knowing, was fully aware that the books would be interpreted differently by millions of people?
The same god who gave us these brains to be able to decipher the meaning of his word?
The same all knowing god who knew that the brains and logic he gave us were still not adequate to form a conclusive opinion of his word but went through with it anyway?
Sounds like a straight up genius this God fella.
If God is intangible... it means he does not have a brain All-knowing is often attributed to him... but is he all-thinking?
All-knowing is often attributed to him... but is he all-
