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RE: God Is Evil
August 3, 2013 at 12:17 pm
(August 2, 2013 at 2:55 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Until recently (the last few years or so) I always felt that the false god of the bible was, of course a narcissistic douche bag, but at least he did actually represent the "good" where good and evil are recognized as opposite forces. I just sort of figured that his massive shortcomings were the result of being created by flawed, uneducated humans. I no longer feel this way. No one can get this kind of a pass for being such a horrible being.
Working from the ridiculous premise that the Bible is actually true I can only conclude the following: God is pure evil.
God is the source of evil. God even prefers evil. He perpetuates evil. God is the bad guy, and evil won.
He created the tree in the garden. (Creation of evil)
He created Lucifer, knowing full well that he would become the Devil. (Perpetuation of evil)
He didn't destroy the Devil, he put him on earth to introduce us to tons of evil. (God likes evil)
He wanted man to fall (as Drich has pointed out often) so as to continue pushing evil like a drug dealer.
On an on he went through history doing horrific things when he always knew the outcome: Abraham sacrificing his own son. The condoning of slavery and severe brutal tortures and killings for ridiculous rules. The condoned raping, forced abortions, and killing of countless women and children. Drowning the entire planet, only to rebuild it with NO changes made. On an on it goes right down to the fact that it was all still never enough - so he made hell to make sure that he can perpetuate evil throughout eternity. He made hell!! Can there be a being more evil than that??
No.
God is evil. Apologists and halfwits simply assigned him the title of "good" and then act indignant when you call his actions what they actually are.
You might as well assign me the title of Saint. It has just as much legitimacy ... maybe more, because at least I haven't killed anyone and I don't want to burn anyone with a blowtorch simply on the grounds that they've never met me and told me they loved me.
I submit that there is no greater evil than the god of the bible.
Meh, One D-bag's evil is another man saint. (Or in this case God) George Washington was an example of this, Sam Adams, John Adams, George Patton, Even Osama binladen.
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RE: God Is Evil
August 3, 2013 at 12:57 pm
Wait, is Drich actually Koolay in disguise?
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RE: God Is Evil
August 3, 2013 at 2:46 pm
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2013 at 2:54 pm by Cinjin.)
(August 3, 2013 at 12:17 pm)Drich Wrote: Cinjin Wrote:God is evil. Apologists and halfwits simply assigned him the title of "good" and then act indignant when you call his actions what they actually are.
Meh, One D-bag's evil is another man saint. (Or in this case God) George Washington was an example of this, Sam Adams, John Adams, George Patton, Even Osama binladen.
When reflecting generally on the human condition - that is true.
Your god however, is held to a higher standard. Cause even if he occasionally did some questionable activities, overall he should come out as a considerably good being since he does claim to represent absolute purity.
He doesn't even come remotely close. Plus, George Washington and Osama Bin Laden didn't lay claim to being the perfect being. If you're going to claim to be Absolute Good, than you probably shouldn't go around creating evil and regularly committing genocide. Comparing "the one and only god" to some pesky terrorist with a tiny following is dishonest and just as I've become accustomed to, your flippant response justifies nothing and only makes your beliefs more absurd.
Meh, one fucktard's god is another man's assclown. I took the liberty of voting for you and the other 3 christards.
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RE: God Is Evil
August 3, 2013 at 4:36 pm
Consider this passage:
Deuteronomy 7:16-24 You must destroy all the nations the LORD your God hands over to you. Show them no mercy and do not worship their gods. If you do, they will trap you. Perhaps you will think to yourselves, 'How can we ever conquer these nations that are so much more powerful than we are?' But don't be afraid of them! Just remember what the LORD your God did to Pharaoh and to all the land of Egypt. Remember the great terrors the LORD your God sent against them. You saw it all with your own eyes! And remember the miraculous signs and wonders, and the amazing power he used when he brought you out of Egypt. The LORD your God will use this same power against the people you fear. And then the LORD your God will send hornets to drive out the few survivors still hiding from you! "No, do not be afraid of those nations, for the LORD your God is among you, and he is a great and awesome God. The LORD your God will drive those nations out ahead of you little by little. You will not clear them away all at once, for if you did, the wild animals would multiply too quickly for you. But the LORD your God will hand them over to you. He will throw them into complete confusion until they are destroyed. He will put their kings in your power, and you will erase their names from the face of the earth. No one will be able to stand against you, and you will destroy them all.
Surely everyone knows that warmongering is the primary quality of a perfect and omnibenevolent being.
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RE: God Is Evil
August 3, 2013 at 5:26 pm
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2013 at 5:41 pm by catfish.)
(August 3, 2013 at 4:36 pm)The Meritocrat Wrote: Consider this passage:
Deuteronomy 7:16-24 You must destroy all the nations the LORD your God hands over to you. Show them no mercy and do not worship their gods. If you do, they will trap you. Perhaps you will think to yourselves, 'How can we ever conquer these nations that are so much more powerful than we are?' But don't be afraid of them! Just remember what the LORD your God did to Pharaoh and to all the land of Egypt. Remember the great terrors the LORD your God sent against them. You saw it all with your own eyes! And remember the miraculous signs and wonders, and the amazing power he used when he brought you out of Egypt. The LORD your God will use this same power against the people you fear. And then the LORD your God will send hornets to drive out the few survivors still hiding from you! "No, do not be afraid of those nations, for the LORD your God is among you, and he is a great and awesome God. The LORD your God will drive those nations out ahead of you little by little. You will not clear them away all at once, for if you did, the wild animals would multiply too quickly for you. But the LORD your God will hand them over to you. He will throw them into complete confusion until they are destroyed. He will put their kings in your power, and you will erase their names from the face of the earth. No one will be able to stand against you, and you will destroy them all.
Surely everyone knows that warmongering is the primary quality of a perfect and omnibenevolent being.
Consider this passage for your disregard:
Ezekiel 22:28 (KJV)
28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered morter, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord God, when the Lord hath not spoken.
Oh yeah, and of course the "poll" does not contain enough options...
(August 3, 2013 at 2:46 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Meh, one fucktard's god is another man's assclown. I took the liberty of voting for you and the other 3 christards.
Did you seriously falsify the poll results and are you actually dumb enough to admit this publicly? (no need to answer)
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RE: God Is Evil
August 3, 2013 at 5:54 pm
(August 3, 2013 at 5:26 pm)catfish Wrote: (August 3, 2013 at 4:36 pm)The Meritocrat Wrote: Consider this passage:
Deuteronomy 7:16-24 You must destroy all the nations the LORD your God hands over to you. Show them no mercy and do not worship their gods. If you do, they will trap you. Perhaps you will think to yourselves, 'How can we ever conquer these nations that are so much more powerful than we are?' But don't be afraid of them! Just remember what the LORD your God did to Pharaoh and to all the land of Egypt. Remember the great terrors the LORD your God sent against them. You saw it all with your own eyes! And remember the miraculous signs and wonders, and the amazing power he used when he brought you out of Egypt. The LORD your God will use this same power against the people you fear. And then the LORD your God will send hornets to drive out the few survivors still hiding from you! "No, do not be afraid of those nations, for the LORD your God is among you, and he is a great and awesome God. The LORD your God will drive those nations out ahead of you little by little. You will not clear them away all at once, for if you did, the wild animals would multiply too quickly for you. But the LORD your God will hand them over to you. He will throw them into complete confusion until they are destroyed. He will put their kings in your power, and you will erase their names from the face of the earth. No one will be able to stand against you, and you will destroy them all.
Surely everyone knows that warmongering is the primary quality of a perfect and omnibenevolent being.
Consider this passage for your disregard:
Ezekiel 22:28 (KJV)
28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered morter, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord God, when the Lord hath not spoken.
Then why did God still grant aid to his "Chosen People" in war? Example:
(Deuteronomy 3)
"So the Lord our God delivered into our hands also Og the king of Basan, and all his people, and we utterly destroyed them. Wasting all his cities at one time. There was not a town that escaped us: sixty cities, all the country of Argob in the kingdom of Og in Basan…And we utterly destroyed them, as we had done to Sehon, the king of Hesebon, destroying every city, men, women and children. But the cattle and the spoils of the cities we took for our prey."
What a God of peace, love and fraternity.
Hallelujah!
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RE: God Is Evil
August 3, 2013 at 5:58 pm
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So, you're gonna cherrypick the verse I gave out of existence? It somehow just isn't there? Are you gonna get all fundy on me now?
Jeremiah 8:8 (NIV)
8 “‘How can you say, “We are wise,
for we have the law of the Lord,”
when actually the lying pen of the scribes
has handled it falsely?
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RE: God Is Evil
August 3, 2013 at 6:04 pm
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2013 at 6:05 pm by The Meritocrat.)
(August 3, 2013 at 5:58 pm)catfish Wrote: So, you're gonna cherrypick the verse I gave out of existence? It somehow just isn't there? Are you gonna get all fundy on me now?
Jeremiah 8:8 (NIV)
8 “‘How can you say, “We are wise,
for we have the law of the Lord,”
when actually the lying pen of the scribes
has handled it falsely?
By your "logic" then, your religion is pointless since the "lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely".
How will you ever know the truth? Prayers?
Goodbye.
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RE: God Is Evil
August 3, 2013 at 6:07 pm
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RE: God Is Evil
August 3, 2013 at 6:26 pm
(August 3, 2013 at 12:17 pm)Drich Wrote: (August 2, 2013 at 2:55 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Until recently (the last few years or so) I always felt that the false god of the bible was, of course a narcissistic douche bag, but at least he did actually represent the "good" where good and evil are recognized as opposite forces. I just sort of figured that his massive shortcomings were the result of being created by flawed, uneducated humans. I no longer feel this way. No one can get this kind of a pass for being such a horrible being.
Working from the ridiculous premise that the Bible is actually true I can only conclude the following: God is pure evil.
God is the source of evil. God even prefers evil. He perpetuates evil. God is the bad guy, and evil won.
He created the tree in the garden. (Creation of evil)
He created Lucifer, knowing full well that he would become the Devil. (Perpetuation of evil)
He didn't destroy the Devil, he put him on earth to introduce us to tons of evil. (God likes evil)
He wanted man to fall (as Drich has pointed out often) so as to continue pushing evil like a drug dealer.
On an on he went through history doing horrific things when he always knew the outcome: Abraham sacrificing his own son. The condoning of slavery and severe brutal tortures and killings for ridiculous rules. The condoned raping, forced abortions, and killing of countless women and children. Drowning the entire planet, only to rebuild it with NO changes made. On an on it goes right down to the fact that it was all still never enough - so he made hell to make sure that he can perpetuate evil throughout eternity. He made hell!! Can there be a being more evil than that??
No.
God is evil. Apologists and halfwits simply assigned him the title of "good" and then act indignant when you call his actions what they actually are.
You might as well assign me the title of Saint. It has just as much legitimacy ... maybe more, because at least I haven't killed anyone and I don't want to burn anyone with a blowtorch simply on the grounds that they've never met me and told me they loved me.
I submit that there is no greater evil than the god of the bible.
Meh, One D-bag's evil is another man saint. (Or in this case God) George Washington was an example of this, Sam Adams, John Adams, George Patton, Even Osama binladen.
So morals are subjective?
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