Unanswered questions

[ITChick]

@ Drich, hey man you see how they are, it's not about learning, it's about winning, and they'er not going to give you a new shot at bringing truth on subjects they know they can't win, and these are the very people who say to learn and reason out things, I say Ha!

GC

Most of learned everything there was that 'religion' could offer us a long time ago.

Yep. I thought we were here to speak to like minded people. Now I find out it's been a compitition all along? Damn.

Does anyone have the score as it stands right now?

[Faith No More]

I'm not sure we've hit rock bottom just yet. Stand by!

I don't know about that. Have you heard about the "angel" that told him the future?

[Drich]

So, I asked you this:

If you believe that God's powers and properties are beyond man's ability to comprehend, then, why is it that when we ask you how you know God exists, every example you give -- of course -- is based upon things that are within our capabilities to understand?

instead of answering the question I had about you doing this very thing...you just did it again.

we can not possiable hope to understand all aspects of God.

This is literally the exact thing my question was pertaining to. Try again.

It's funny how you cut and paste segements of what I said to dodge what I actually said.. Like I would not see how you took my words out of their context. You know that only works when your not speaking to the Author of the orginal quote or someone who does not know the intention of the orginal quote.

That said, I have an Idea! How about reading the rest of what i said. "We can know the revealed aspects of God." In a sense there is not a question we can ask we do not have the potential to receive an answer for.

(We won't know what we can't/don't have the capasity to comperhend.) But for all that we do, we can expect an answer. Because God has not placed a limit on us, we are our own source of limitation.

[The Reality Salesman01]

I'm not sure we've hit rock bottom just yet. Stand by!

I don't know about that. Have you heard about the "angel" that told him the future?

Was that when he got to see Hell? Oh yeah. I've heard that ole chestnut.

[Faith No More]

No, I believe this guy was a hitchhiker that Drich picked up. The guy claimed he was a psychic or something. Let him tell you. I can't do the story justice.

[Drich]

I'm not sure we've hit rock bottom just yet. Stand by!

I don't know about that. Have you heard about the "angel" that told him the future?

and if you were told that you would have XYZ, and you received XYZ, when you knew XYZ was well out of your reach from your current path. Would you not accept all of what the person said? Especially when more is yet to come? Not that the vessal in which the message was delivered is any more special than any other messenger God may use. It is the message and the vality of the message that hold all value. So long as the message does not contradict what the bible says, and plays out to be true on all accounts then one can considered it to be from God. (in this case anyway.)

So again if someone out of the blue were to lay out every major event in your life, and told you He was from God, and gave you a list of things to focous on, would you brush it off even if everything he said started to unfold as he said it, or would you do as you were instructed?

If in your heart of hearts you would brush it off, then ask yourself why God would bother saying anything to you?

A Link to my Messenger/Message thread. (Angel story) http://atheistforums.org/thread-13378.html

[Chas]

I don't know about that. Have you heard about the "angel" that told him the future?

and if you were told that you would have XYZ, and you received XYZ, when you knew XYZ was well out of your reach from your current path. Would you not accept all of what the person said? Especially when more is yet to come? Not that the vessal in which the message was delivered is any more special than any other messenger God may use. It is the message and the vality of the message that hold all value. So long as the message does not contradict what the bible says, and plays out to be true on all accounts then one can considered it to be from God. (in this case anyway.)

So again if someone out of the blue were to lay out every major event in your life, and told you He was from God, and gave you a list of things to focous on, would you brush it off even if everything he said started to unfold as he said it, or would you do as you were instructed?

If in your heart of hearts you would brush it off, then ask yourself why God would bother saying anything to you?

A Link to my Messenger/Message thread. (Angel story) http://atheistforums.org/thread-13378.html

If someone knew things about my life that they couldn't possibly have humanly known, then that would be evidence of something non-human.

But it would not be evidence of any particular god.

[The Reality Salesman01]

So, I asked you this:


instead of answering the question I had about you doing this very thing...you just did it again.


This is literally the exact thing my question was pertaining to. Try again.

It's funny how you cut and paste segements of what I said to dodge what I actually said.. Like I would not see how you took my words out of their context. You know that only works when your not speaking to the Author of the orginal quote or someone who does not know the intention of the orginal quote.

That said, I have an Idea! How about reading the rest of what i said. "We can know the revealed aspects of God." In a sense there is not a question we can ask we do not have the potential to receive an answer for.

(We won't know what we can't/don't have the capasity to comperhend.) But for all that we do, we can expect an answer. Because God has not placed a limit on us, we are our own source of limitation.

I think its funny that you thought anything I cut out was at all relevant. How do you know what you just said? You literally just did it again. Look at the bold!

I ask you something and you say that there are things beyond human comprehension. You then go on to tell me things that are within human comprehension. Provide a reason for me to think that you have any idea what you're talking about. Are there things beyond comprehension? Are we limited? Which one is it? Once you nail that down. Give me an example of something that is beyond our comprehension, and then please tell me how you know it. You're making your God look pretty silly right now.

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and if you were told that you would have XYZ, and you received XYZ, when you knew XYZ was well out of your reach from your current path.

If I had a bunch of trash in front of my house, and my neighbor told me to put it at the curb on Monday morning, then strip down to my underwear, and begin running to work carrying a desk lamp and singing 70's rock music. My neigbor said that if I did this, when I got home from work, the trash God will consume my trash, and it will be gone when I get home.

XYZ...check! Hmmm...

[Drich]

and if you were told that you would have XYZ, and you received XYZ, when you knew XYZ was well out of your reach from your current path. Would you not accept all of what the person said? Especially when more is yet to come? Not that the vessal in which the message was delivered is any more special than any other messenger God may use. It is the message and the vality of the message that hold all value. So long as the message does not contradict what the bible says, and plays out to be true on all accounts then one can considered it to be from God. (in this case anyway.)

So again if someone out of the blue were to lay out every major event in your life, and told you He was from God, and gave you a list of things to focous on, would you brush it off even if everything he said started to unfold as he said it, or would you do as you were instructed?

If in your heart of hearts you would brush it off, then ask yourself why God would bother saying anything to you?

A Link to my Messenger/Message thread. (Angel story) http://atheistforums.org/thread-13378.html

If someone knew things about my life that they couldn't possibly have humanly known, then that would be evidence of something non-human.

But it would not be evidence of any particular god.

...and if this 'non-human' said he was to deliver that message from God?

That was the point of the Mircials Christ performed. I was to establish His authority with out question or doubt as to who He was (Son of God) and what He said was true. Fore, who could do what was done and say He was God, and not be of God? If there was a power and authority greater than the 'mirical worker' himself, and the 'mirical worker' was not from God/The power authority greater than the Mirical worker, then why would God allow the Mirical worker to Change anything God established?

This is what got the the pharasees in trouble in Mark 3. They saw the 'proof' Christ offered, and tried to say his power was from Satan, rather than God. In essence saying Saying Satan was greater, and that he was at war with himself.

[Chas]

If someone knew things about my life that they couldn't possibly have humanly known, then that would be evidence of something non-human.

But it would not be evidence of any particular god.

...and if this 'non-human' said he was to deliver that message from God?

That was the point of the Mircials Christ performed. I was to establish His authority with out question or doubt as to who He was (Son of God) and what He said was true. Fore, who could do what was done and say He was God, and not be of God? If there was a power and authority greater than the 'mirical worker' himself, and the 'mirical worker' was not from God/The power authority greater than the Mirical worker, then why would God allow the Mirical worker to Change anything God established?

This is what got the the pharasees in trouble in Mark 3. They saw the 'proof' Christ offered, and tried to say his power was from Satan, rather than God. In essence saying Saying Satan was greater, and that he was at war with himself.

I was answering your argument - why are you shifting the argument?