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My world.
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My world.
Let's say that somehow I created a Planet on my PC and populated this planet with plants and animals. But unlike software like sim earth these animals were real. Every bit as real as the animals that exist on the Earth today.

Then let's say I created a small race of human like beings. These beings were intelligent, sentient and self aware. Consciously they are as real as you or I. They have emotions, needs, longing, a sense of humour. They feel love, fear, joy, pain, happiness. Just as we do.

Now, not only did I create this world with all it's inhabitants but I also planned every aspect of their lives. There was not one thing that they did, do or will do that I did not know would happen before I even started this project.

I have also gone to a great deal of trouble to give this world a history. I have given it an entire universe to exist in which appears to have emanated from a mighty explosion some 13.7 billion years ago. I have given the planet itself an equally impressive past full of geology, fossil records, evolution and anything else I can think of to make the intelligent and inquiring mind come to the conclusion that all things are as a result of cause and effect with no supernatural element.

Let's further suppose that I love this world with all it's creatures and I want to have a 'personal' relationship with every human like being that exists on it. What I really want is for every person that I have created to worship me and love me and put me before all other people and things. I also want them to follow my rules and guidelines and as a reward for this, when they die they will be granted eternal life in another creation of mine called 'Paradise'.

However, in order for people to know, worship and obey me I must inform them of my existence and my will. I do this by planting thoughts and ideas into some of the peoples minds which eventually work there way into stories which are discussed around camp fires and other gatherings and then get written down.

Many of the stories I plant are in direct contradiction to the physical evidence that lies all around.

After a thousand years or so these stories get compiled into many holy books which many people claim are the word of the creator. Many of the stories claim that I have personally spoken to people throughout history but there is no other evidence other than the stories in these books to support that. I certainly don't intervene to corroborate these stories.

After a while I decide that things aren't going the way I planned so I create a special human with special knowledge to live amongst them and nudge them in the right direction. Not only do I give this human special knowledge I also give him the ability to bypass many of the routines and programming that I used to create this world to allow him to do amazing things such as walk on water, or heal the sick etc.

This man roams around for a few years in his thirties, performing a few miracles and making many speeches. He gets a bit of a following and many people think he has been sent by the creator. However, many more people think he is just the latest in a long line of religious leaders who claim all sorts of things.

Eventually he gets killed and the seeds of a new religion have started.

Right, I think to myself, that's all the chances they are going to get. Either these people believe every word this special man has told them and through him worship, love, honour and obey me or when they die, no matter what sort of person they have been or what sort of life they have lead I'm either going to consign their conscious minds to oblivion or send them to another place I have created called 'Eternal Torment' where I can watch them scream and writhe in agony for all time.

Question is, if this were true, what sort of person would that make me?
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RE: My world.
(October 4, 2009 at 9:38 am)Darwinian Wrote: Question is, if this were true, what sort of person would that make me?

Zeus!!!
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RE: My world.
(October 4, 2009 at 9:38 am)Darwinian Wrote: Question is, if this were true, what sort of person would that make me?

The biggest rat bastard to come to existence. Tongue
The dark side awaits YOU...AngryAtheism
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#4
RE: My world.
This is old very ground. The believer will say that we are not privy to God's ways and he is preparing us or testing us.....I failed my test years ago.Tiger

No matter how ridiculous he may look to we mere mortals he knows what he is about and it is not for us to know all.

The non believer on the other hand uses expletives and negative character assasinations.

So we are back to square one. Round and round we go but never getting anywhere....accept I get dizzy.Angry

I bet yer one thing....if he is up there, he's having a fucking good laugh at all of us, for one thing he must, must have, is a great sense of humour to have created all this on earth. hee hee hee

And my countless friends the Aliens out there are no doubt going around and around too.

So guys I've had enough of this forum and will take my Atheism elsewhere.
Good luck on your roundabout. Don't get too dizzy.

See you in heaven one day maybe.ROFLOL
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#5
RE: My world.
We may never know for sure....so better to live realistically Smile Take care, mate!
The dark side awaits YOU...AngryAtheism
"Only the dead have seen the end of war..." - Plato
“Those who wish to base their morality literally on the Bible have either not read it or not understood it...” - Richard Dawkins
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RE: My world.
Now, suppose...
Instead of wanting to be surrounded by a bunch of stupid nuts for all eternity, the god plan was not to reward the believers of this crazy mythology but rather to reward those who rejected the mythology and used their heads for something other than a hat rack?

In this senario, the believers who think they are going to be rewarded for serving a monster are going to get screwed by that very monster.

And those who stuck to their integrity and brains are the ones who get rewarded. Nice twist. Could be true????
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#7
RE: My world.
An Unoriginal person LOL Big Grin ...or your typical SIMS player Big Grin

Well it's all sort of similar to something.. I can't quite put my finger on... Tongue

There are new bits, this being my favourite:

"Many of the stories I plant are in direct contradiction to the physical evidence that lies all around. "
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#8
RE: My world.
Ever since reading Dar mentioning Sim earth, I have this desire to try the game....LOL Tongue
The dark side awaits YOU...AngryAtheism
"Only the dead have seen the end of war..." - Plato
“Those who wish to base their morality literally on the Bible have either not read it or not understood it...” - Richard Dawkins
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#9
RE: My world.
Hehe, I like your story Darwinian Smile You don't mind if I save it without your knowledge do you? Joke

If the main character in the story wanted to have a personal relationship with all of his created race... then why did he program out their entire lives (Each story which he knows intimately)? This is little different from making an rpg with one character... and typing out every line they will ever say in response to you... and then becoming intimately attached to that character because of their responses.

Only difference? The programmer did this with every single human on the planet. Your story is a good show of why this programmer is suffering insanity, and a great deal of emotional neglect... among other things Smile
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: My world.
You and your puny mind Sae! Smile
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