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Does World View Directly Impact the World?
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Does World View Directly Impact the World?
What is the relationship there?   is it a simple matter of world view defines operating parameters and operating within those parameters is bound to leave tangible consequences?   Is it more involved than that?   is there any correlation at all? 

And if so, to what degree, where?   Like, how would a fundamentally secular society differ from ones that developed with say, Christianity or Islam or something?
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RE: Does World View Directly Impact the World?
(Yesterday at 12:36 pm)Rift Zone Wrote: What is the relationship there?   is it a simple matter of world view defines operating parameters and operating within those parameters is bound to leave tangible consequences?   Is it more involved than that?   is there any correlation at all? 

And if so, to what degree, where?   Like, how would a fundamentally secular society differ from ones that developed with say, Christianity or Islam or something?

I think it’s highly likely that world views impact societies. Compare France (highly secular) with Saudi Arabia (decidedly not).

Boru
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RE: Does World View Directly Impact the World?
(Yesterday at 12:36 pm)Rift Zone Wrote: What is the relationship there?   is it a simple matter of world view defines operating parameters and operating within those parameters is bound to leave tangible consequences?   Is it more involved than that?   is there any correlation at all? 

And if so, to what degree, where?   Like, how would a fundamentally secular society differ from ones that developed with say, Christianity or Islam or something?

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RE: Does World View Directly Impact the World?
(Yesterday at 12:36 pm)Rift Zone Wrote: What is the relationship there?   is it a simple matter of world view defines operating parameters and operating within those parameters is bound to leave tangible consequences?   Is it more involved than that?   is there any correlation at all? 

And if so, to what degree, where?   Like, how would a fundamentally secular society differ from ones that developed with say, Christianity or Islam or something?

If our worldviews aren't realistic, then we keep bumping into inconvenient realities to our own detriment.  

It happens all the time these days.  Climate change is perhaps the biggest example, but Trump's second term is all about denialism in various forms.
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RE: Does World View Directly Impact the World?
(Yesterday at 12:36 pm)Rift Zone Wrote: What is the relationship there?   is it a simple matter of world view defines operating parameters and operating within those parameters is bound to leave tangible consequences?   Is it more involved than that?   is there any correlation at all? 

I think people's world views determine pretty much everything in the human world -- culture, tradition, politics, the built environment. All of society.

We are trained from birth to see things in certain ways. Some of the training goes so deep that we aren't even aware there are alternatives. So when we make any kind of choice -- our lifestyle, our buildings, etc.etc. -- our views form those choices.

We can also talk about different levels of what we might call a world view. It's more than just politics. Anything that appears to your conscious mind has been filtered and interpreted already by the way you view things, and these interpretations are partly learned. (Just exactly to what degree they are learned, and how much they are common to every member of the same species is debatable.) But by the time you've gotten to the point where you can say, "Look, there's a cat," your mind has already separated the animal from its background, identified what kind of thing it is, and in part chosen how you're going to react to it. There are no "raw" experiences which don't pass through mental interpretations. 

Quote:And if so, to what degree, where?   Like, how would a fundamentally secular society differ from ones that developed with say, Christianity or Islam or something?

This is really difficult, because to see how things might differ, we have to look at very different cultures, removed from us in either time or space. But it's very natural for us to interpret those different cultures through our own habits. So the extreme strangeness of what it would be like to live in, say, ancient Greece, tends to be smoothed out. And of course our media products assist with this normalization -- in a movie about ancient Greece the actors are all going to be speaking English and wearing haircuts that are popular at the moment in California and thinking pretty much like modern Americans. 

I mean, Star Trek is fun if you think of the encounters with all those alien cultures as little morality plays, which are actually commenting on modern US society. But as speculation about actual aliens it's seriously lacking in imagination. 

As for how a fundamentally secular society differs from one that developed with religion, that's impossible to know. We'd have to engage in some counter-factual speculation, which is fun but of course completely unprovable. Like it or not, our culture was very religious for a long time, so the values that we still have evolved through that religion. How much of the religious influence remains, even in the absence of religious belief, is the subject of serious study. 

Even the most un-religious cultures in the modern world (maybe China?) developed through the medium of religion. (Especially if you count Confucianism as a religion.)
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