Governments are The Number one Killer

[Koolay]

Governments, in the last 100 years (so this is recent) according to statistics have killed 250 million people, and these are their own citizens, that the government claims to work to protect. This is not even include the many, many casualties in wars.

If we take the average world height of people as 175 cm, and multiply this by 250 million.
To put in perspective how many governments have killed, if you were to put these corpses standing ontop of each other it would be 437,500 km in length. The distance between the Earth and moon is just 384,400 km.

So in the last 100 years governments have created a body count going beyond the distance of the moon...

You think it's time to consider an alternative to creating a group of people using the initiation of force to solve social problems? How many times are we going to fall for the same trap over and over, like a battered wife clinging to the abusive husband, saying "this time he will be different!" IT'S CRAP! Governments are inherently evil and always will be, and after 250 million people; friends and family being killed, it's time to wake the fuck up. Have some PRIDE for god sakes! This addiction to government is monstrously catastrophic by any objective measure. The experiment is over, governments do not work- they just make things worse.

The social contract, voting, democracy, representatives- it's all nothing. It's just hell and noise that equals to absolutely nothing. Well, worse than nothing... Stop being the battered spouse defending her husband's violence, this addiction to the abusive relationship with government, it's shameful, by voting, supporting governments you are delaying the progress of humanity, and wiping the boots of your abuser, ultimately adding to the body count and destruction of voluntary society. Stop it.

[Captain Colostomy]

Koolay- if you were abducted, would your parents entertain offering a reward, or would they just make the wise choice and pad their stock portfolio further?

It's always the bratty rich kids with the crazy ideas.

[CapnAwesome]

According to my math governments have killed 700 trillion people, created AIDs, wiped out the dinosaurs and killed mickey mouse.

[Darth]

Actually, one could very well make the argument that government (in cahoots with disney) has indeed killed Mickey mouse.

Look at copyright laws and disney. Try using what SHOULD be public domain by now. See what happens to your precious mouse, mwuhoohahahahaha.

And if you believe that every sperm is sacred, that every sperm is good, then 700trillion is a vastly underestimated figure. Certain politicians have probably achieved that figure all by themselves.

[Ryantology]

You think it's time to consider an alternative to creating a group of people using the initiation of force to solve social problems?

Do you think it's time? For all your verbal flatulence railing against government, you're certainly short on solutions.

[wwjs]

What's your point? The world would be better off without government? Works well in Somalia.

[popeyespappy]

Mickey Mouse is dead? When the fuck did that happen?

[Captain Colostomy]

Mickey Mouse is dead? When the fuck did that happen?

About the same time Pixar got off the ground.

[bennyboy]

Governments, in the last 100 years (so this is recent) according to statistics have killed 250 million people, and these are their own citizens, that the government claims to work to protect. This is not even include the many, many casualties in wars.

If we take the average world height of people as 175 cm, and multiply this by 250 million.
To put in perspective how many governments have killed, if you were to put these corpses standing ontop of each other it would be 437,500 km in length. The distance between the Earth and moon is just 384,400 km.

So in the last 100 years governments have created a body count going beyond the distance of the moon...

You think it's time to consider an alternative to creating a group of people using the initiation of force to solve social problems? How many times are we going to fall for the same trap over and over, like a battered wife clinging to the abusive husband, saying "this time he will be different!" IT'S CRAP! Governments are inherently evil and always will be, and after 250 million people; friends and family being killed, it's time to wake the fuck up. Have some PRIDE for god sakes! This addiction to government is monstrously catastrophic by any objective measure. The experiment is over, governments do not work- they just make things worse.

The social contract, voting, democracy, representatives- it's all nothing. It's just hell and noise that equals to absolutely nothing. Well, worse than nothing... Stop being the battered spouse defending her husband's violence, this addiction to the abusive relationship with government, it's shameful, by voting, supporting governments you are delaying the progress of humanity, and wiping the boots of your abuser, ultimately adding to the body count and destruction of voluntary society. Stop it.

We've had government (at least) since agriculture. The administration of large tracts of land to provide food for people not living on it, or farming it directly, allows the existence of civilization. It also introduces a kind of assymmetrical bartering system that has to be overseen.

So let's see if your assertion that governments make things worse holds up. Before agriculture, we were hunter gatherers. Short life spans, no way to treat diseases, and few ways to treat even relatively minor injuries. Individuals had much less free time to engage in self-development exercises (like debating politics on the internet). So on an individual level, quality of life (for those who survive the wars etc.) is clearly much better.

Now lets consider the human species. We've gone from maybe a few hundred thousand to 7 billion. So obviously, government has not harmed the species as a whole.

Your assertions, while passionate, seem much more a product of your personal frustrations than of a logical view on society.

[Doubting Thomas]

Government shot Bambi's mother.