Radical Christianity 101

[Godscreated]

GC, remember a few weeks ago when I said I wanted to be your friend?

I respectfully retract that offer.

It's your choice, I did nothing wrong here. All I said was he was jealous of his wife, now you tell me what's wrong with that.

GC

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I'm with GC. Part of love includes would for her sincerely held convictions. Why do you insist on forcing yours onto her?

Who said anything about forcing his convictions on her? He merely commented on the distress he felt when hearing his wife would die for something he believes to be false.

You know it really doesn't matter what he believes, it is her life and she has the right independent of his will to live it as she sees fit. If he is going to force his will on her then what kind of husband does that make him.

GC

[Faith No More]

You know it really doesn't matter what he believes, it is her life and she has the right independent of his will to live it as she sees fit. If he is going to force his will on her then what kind of husband does that make him.

The problem is that no one except the Christians here are talking about anyone forcing anything on anyone. Does your persecution complex run so deep that if a man shows concern that his wife is willing to die for her(and your) religion, he must be forcing his will upon her? Grow up and quit pretending like you're taking some kind of high road here. You have the balls to criticize what kind of husband he is, but your reading comprehension is so low you can't even grasp his point. Clearly it doesn't matter what anyone actually says as long as you get to feel that your beliefs are being persecuted and you can feel superior for condemning someone based on something that only happened in your deluded, little mind.

[Lion IRC]

You've been invited. I'm tired of all this ridiculous childish hate and I'm finished with this.

GC

Come on you dipshit redneck, you love ridiculous childish hate - your fake god is the biggest whining cry baby hater of them all. I piss on your faith, your fake god, and on you. Now, if you are indeed "finished with this", then kindly delete your forum account and get lost. In any case - fuck off!

See that Godschild? That's what happens when the intellectual ammunition runs out and the reptilian brain kicks in.

Pure emotion. Unpolluted by reasonTM.

[Something completely different]

As for G-C, he's just a smug, sanctimonious asshole who likes to go on personal attacks, like he also did to me about my marriage.

I never attacked you nor your wife, you are full of hatred for Christians.

GC

TGAC

[Godscreated]

You know it really doesn't matter what he believes, it is her life and she has the right independent of his will to live it as she sees fit. If he is going to force his will on her then what kind of husband does that make him.

The problem is that no one except the Christians here are talking about anyone forcing anything on anyone. Does your persecution complex run so deep that if a man shows concern that his wife is willing to die for her(and your) religion, he must be forcing his will upon her? Grow up and quit pretending like you're taking some kind of high road here. You have the balls to criticize what kind of husband he is, but your reading comprehension is so low you can't even grasp his point. Clearly it doesn't matter what anyone actually says as long as you get to feel that your beliefs are being persecuted and you can feel superior for condemning someone based on something that only happened in your deluded, little mind.

This whole thing came about because he wanted pity from you guys, how pitiful is that. When I challenged him by saying he was jealous, he blew this whole thing out of proportion, to me it's just childish at best. Now let's just drop this whole unfortunate deal.

GC

[freedomfromforum]

You know it really doesn't matter what he believes, it is her life and she has the right independent of his will to live it as she sees fit. If he is going to force his will on her then what kind of husband does that make him.

GC

I asked you to kindly fuck off - now please do so.

Your stupidity is only overshadowed by your inhumanity - the rest is all trash too.

fff

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You know it really doesn't matter what he believes, it is her life and she has the right independent of his will to live it as she sees fit. If he is going to force his will on her then what kind of husband does that make him.

The problem is that no one except the Christians here are talking about anyone forcing anything on anyone. Does your persecution complex run so deep that if a man shows concern that his wife is willing to die for her(and your) religion, he must be forcing his will upon her? Grow up and quit pretending like you're taking some kind of high road here. You have the balls to criticize what kind of husband he is, but your reading comprehension is so low you can't even grasp his point. Clearly it doesn't matter what anyone actually says as long as you get to feel that your beliefs are being persecuted and you can feel superior for condemning someone based on something that only happened in your deluded, little mind.

Thanks for the cover fire!

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This whole thing came about because he wanted pity from you guys, how pitiful is that. When I challenged him by saying he was jealous, he blew this whole thing out of proportion, to me it's just childish at best. Now let's just drop this whole unfortunate deal.

GC

You'd like to be able to undo what you've done here - but you are unwilling to do so.

[Lemonvariable72]

The problem is that no one except the Christians here are talking about anyone forcing anything on anyone. Does your persecution complex run so deep that if a man shows concern that his wife is willing to die for her(and your) religion, he must be forcing his will upon her? Grow up and quit pretending like you're taking some kind of high road here. You have the balls to criticize what kind of husband he is, but your reading comprehension is so low you can't even grasp his point. Clearly it doesn't matter what anyone actually says as long as you get to feel that your beliefs are being persecuted and you can feel superior for condemning someone based on something that only happened in your deluded, little mind.

This whole thing came about because he wanted pity from you guys, how pitiful is that. When I challenged him by saying he was jealous, he blew this whole thing out of proportion, to me it's just childish at best. Now let's just drop this whole unfortunate deal.

GC

So fucking pitiful that he wanted to talk to atheist community, where people might have had similiar experiences. G-C you are such a pathetic excuse for a human I wish you were a homo erectus, just so that I wouldn't have to be the same species as you. You only I could believe that no homo sapien could be such a holier then thou piece of shit as you. If you said that in front of me I may have shoved my foot up your ass.
the saddest part of it all is that geniunely think you did nothing wrong. That ladies and gentlemen is how far the poison has spread.

[Esquilax]

This whole thing came about because he wanted pity from you guys, how pitiful is that. When I challenged him by saying he was jealous, he blew this whole thing out of proportion, to me it's just childish at best. Now let's just drop this whole unfortunate deal.

GC

So, I'm gonna go ahead and give a little tip to the christians on the board, after this and Drich's whole thing with Fidel's dad, to maybe make this whole "being a human being in a social space" thing go a little easier for them: other people's loved ones are out of bounds.

If you're talking to an atheist, and they say something about their family or friends- especially concerning topics such as illness or death- and you feel that you can use it to make a point about god, or the afterlife, or hell, or whatever, just don't. Stop thinking about it, perhaps consider offering a kind word instead of using the personal concerns of others to make a point. These people are important to someone else, they aren't fodder for your religious agenda.

Maybe you weren't meaning to cause offence; if this is the case, then you'll have no trouble taking this advice on board, I'm sure. If you're trying not to be cruel, then understanding this- even if you personally don't find what you're thinking of saying offensive- will be easy for you. You're not close enough to the issue at hand to feel the hurt it would cause, so you're just walking into a minefield you have no reason to.

The very worst of your religion preys on the weakness and tragedy of others in order to advance its cause and attract more members when they're vulnerable. Just today, someone posted a link to Ray Comfort using the suicide of an atheist man to promote his new movie. We atheists- especially those of us from religious backgrounds- are sensitive to this form of emotional blackmail, because we've seen it too often. If one of us gets personal about our feelings, just let it drop without comment, okay?

The correct action, if you have stepped on a landmine, is to apologize, let them know you didn't mean any offense, and move on. You have- perhaps unknowingly- committed a social faux pas, like any other. Just because your religion is involved in no way means that you're being persecuted, or that this has suddenly become a theological debate. You've lived in the human world all your life; just observe the social niceties of being a human here, and everything will be fine.

[Lion IRC]

Insofar as the rules allow, I'm not going to feel constrained from talking to anyone about family, God, life and death.
Christians are not subject to "special rules" about who they can and cannot talk to on the forum and they don't need Esquilax's permission or proof checking of their posts to see if they meet some arbitrary "sensitivity" guideline about ..."how to talk to an atheist"

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Insofar as the rules allow, I'm not going to feel constrained from talking to anyone about family, God, life and death.
Christians are not subject to "special rules" about who they can and cannot talk to on the forum and they don't need Esquilax's permission or proof checking of their posts to see if they meet some arbitrary "sensitivity" guideline about ..."how to talk to an atheist"

Or how to be a decent human being.

I'm sure most of the theists here have recognised by now that most of us 'atheists' don't really care about their beliefs or their version of 'god'. In fact, the only reason we're talking about it at all is because folk such as yourself insist on doing so. If people just kept their beliefs to themselves, then the world would be a better place.

But, as you say, you can talk to us all the time about your beliefs. Nobody here is going to stop you from doing that. It's just odd that so many theists start to get their knickers in a twist when people disagree with them, and disagree with them forcefully. Not accusing you of being such as person, but it's evident throughout this board.

Some people however seem to lack that basic human ability to empathise. When I spoke about my dad, I didn't do so with the aim of eliciting sympathy, or concern. I did it to counter a point made by another poster. Yet somehow, on that thread, I was accused of using my father's condition as a stop tactic on the debate; to stifle it using an 'un-touchable subject (family)'. That is false, and demonstrably false to anyone who read the thread in question. I was then attacked by the other poster, and worse, had my own father's condition used as an attack against me.

This is the reason for Esquilax's post above.

And there's two people in this world. People who know what I'm talking about, and people who lack the ability to empathise and understand reasoning.