Radical Christianity 101

[Esquilax]

Insofar as the rules allow, I'm not going to feel constrained from talking to anyone about family, God, life and death.
Christians are not subject to "special rules" about who they can and cannot talk to on the forum and they don't need Esquilax's permission or proof checking of their posts to see if they meet some arbitrary "sensitivity" guideline about ..."how to talk to an atheist"

No, you don't: but if you cross a line and refuse to recognize it, you've voided your right to become arch or play the persecution card when you're called a cunt.

I wasn't telling you to ask permission, I was explaining under the vain hope that offense wasn't what you guys meant to cause. The problem is that you all seem to want to play both sides, offending indiscriminately while bitching about anyone calling you on it. That's all.

[Drich]

Christian faith is radical and fanatical.
No doubt, there are Muslim groups
(and others) that would hold a gun
to a christian's infant's head and
demand that they deny christ. I know
many christians who have told me
that they would never deny christ,
and that they would willingly martyr
themselves along with their infant
because it meant that they would
be ushered into heaven.

Now tell me christians....

How is your willingness to die
to get into heaven based on
your religion any better than
the religion of the ones who
are willing to kill you so they
can get into heaven? Aren't
you both willing to die for god?

After all... Allah is "The One True God"™
The Quran says so... It's inspireed don't ya know?

You do realize that christians and Muslims
believe the EXACT same things, right?
That everyone outside the faith (respectively)
is doomed to eternal hell where you and god
get to indulge in the pleasure of watching
'infidels' being tortured in hellfire - Right?

Muslims is a works based belief. To die for their God is an assureance to the reward offered them by their god.

Christianity is a Faith based belief. Dying for the religion simply means one is dead, and will be ushered into their final judgement.

Just because there are those who believe this is the same thing does not make it so.

[Faith No More]

This whole thing came about because he wanted pity from you guys, how pitiful is that. When I challenged him by saying he was jealous, he blew this whole thing out of proportion, to me it's just childish at best. Now let's just drop this whole unfortunate deal.

You're the one acting childish, and the only pitiful thing here is your abhorrent response and insistence on placing the blame for your disgusting behavior on someone else. The fact that you have to resort accuse him of seeking pity to justify your repsonse speaks volumes to your character.

You better start praying that Jesus loves immature little pricks, because you're not getting into heaven any other way.

[Chas]

It would be cool if the Admins, with their god-like powers, would simply ban the current crop of Christians - kind of like The Flood.

They have run their course, they offer nothing new, they are like old, broken toys.

We'd then collect a fresh batch of delusional folk to toy with.

[max-greece]

"Christianity is a Faith based belief. Dying for the religion simply means one is dead, and will be ushered into their final judgement."

Tell that to Jesus. He had to die to appease his Dad (who is him) for the sins we didn't commit - well our Dad's did but we are not them and even though his Dad said something about the Sins of the father not being visited on the Children he didn't mean it so he killed his son (which is him) to pay a non-existent debt to him (who is also his son) so that he can look the other way when his son (which is him) gets us into heaven because the debt we didn't owe has been paid by him to him on our behalf.

Right?

[Godscreated]

It would be cool if the Admins, with their god-like powers, would simply ban the current crop of Christians - kind of like The Flood.

They have run their course, they offer nothing new, they are like old, broken toys.

We'd then collect a fresh batch of delusional folk to toy with.

Because of their good reasoning they want, so you should get use to us being here, or leave if we bother you that much. By the way I've yet to see you refute anything biblical I've brought to a discussion. Your typical childish answer to most Christian post, why that ain't true because I say it ain't.

GC

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This whole thing came about because he wanted pity from you guys, how pitiful is that. When I challenged him by saying he was jealous, he blew this whole thing out of proportion, to me it's just childish at best. Now let's just drop this whole unfortunate deal.

You're the one acting childish, and the only pitiful thing here is your abhorrent response and insistence on placing the blame for your disgusting behavior on someone else. The fact that you have to resort accuse him of seeking pity to justify your repsonse speaks volumes to your character.

You better start praying that Jesus loves immature little pricks, because you're not getting into heaven any other way.

Your so observant and brilliant show me exactly how I got this started, I want to see my abhorrent remarks and my disgusting behavior.

GC

[Minimalist]

Post #23.

But you're such a sanctimonious shit you probably can't see it.

[Godscreated]

Or how to be a decent human being.

I'm sure most of the theists here have recognised by now that most of us 'atheists' don't really care about their beliefs or their version of 'god'. In fact, the only reason we're talking about it at all is because folk such as yourself insist on doing so. If people just kept their beliefs to themselves, then the world would be a better place.

But, as you say, you can talk to us all the time about your beliefs. Nobody here is going to stop you from doing that. It's just odd that so many theists start to get their knickers in a twist when people disagree with them, and disagree with them forcefully. Not accusing you of being such as person, but it's evident throughout this board.

Some people however seem to lack that basic human ability to empathise. When I spoke about my dad, I didn't do so with the aim of eliciting sympathy, or concern. I did it to counter a point made by another poster. Yet somehow, on that thread, I was accused of using my father's condition as a stop tactic on the debate; to stifle it using an 'un-touchable subject (family)'. That is false, and demonstrably false to anyone who read the thread in question. I was then attacked by the other poster, and worse, had my own father's condition used as an attack against me.

This is the reason for Esquilax's post above.

And there's two people in this world. People who know what I'm talking about, and people who lack the ability to empathise and understand reasoning.

I mentioned my parents on here a couple of times and they were run into the ground by the ones you believe are the do-gooders. I have not nor will I ever mention them before such heathens again, so you all should quit your crying and move on this has become pathetic.

GC

[freedomfromforum]

Your so observant and brilliant show me exactly how I got this started, I want to see my abhorrent remarks and my disgusting behavior.

GC

http://atheistforums.org/thread-21299-po...#pid520880

Douchebag!

[Lemonvariable72]

Christian faith is radical and fanatical.
No doubt, there are Muslim groups
(and others) that would hold a gun
to a christian's infant's head and
demand that they deny christ. I know
many christians who have told me
that they would never deny christ,
and that they would willingly martyr
themselves along with their infant
because it meant that they would
be ushered into heaven.

How is it that Christians are fanatical and radical?
Death has nothing to do with being in heaven, faith in our Lord Jesus Christ brings grace into our lives from God Father.
Faith is the opposite of denial.

Now tell me christians....

How is your willingness to die
to get into heaven based on
your religion any better than
the religion of the ones who
are willing to kill you so they
can get into heaven? Aren't
you both willing to die for god?

Dying for God has nothing to do with getting to heaven.
To live eternally with God requires faith in the Son of God,
through this faith we receive grace from God the Father.
God says murders will not enter into His eternal kingdom,
so committed terrorist will not be there, simple really.

After all... Allah is "The One True God"™
The Quran says so... It's inspireed don't ya know?

If it's inspired it is inspired by Satan.
Satan is the great deceiver and that means many have
been deceived, tell me how does it feel to be deceived?

You do realize that christians and Muslims
believe the EXACT same things, right?
That everyone outside the faith (respectively)
is doomed to eternal hell where you and god
get to indulge in the pleasure of watching
'infidels' being tortured in hellfire - Right?

Are you so deceived that you really believe they
are the same, interesting that one could be so deceived.
Only unforgiven sinners will be rejected and sent to hell.
No one will watch the suffering happening in hell,
scriptures tell us this.
For someone who claimed they were a Christian you sure know little about it, oh that's right you have been deceived for a very long time.

GC

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The impetus for this thread is a bit dark. Last night, when my wife arrived
home following a bible study, she talked about strong faith. I asked her if
she would be willing to deny christ if it meant that it would save her life.
She said, "No." I asked her if she would take a bullet and die rather than
deny christ; she said "Yes." I was sad. She asked why I got sad. I told her
that I was sad because religion had the power to take my wife's life away;
whether by the hand of a terrorist (whatever that is now), or by her own
free will. I am sad that my wife would effectively commit suicide for a lie.

You should tell her how jealous you are of her strength.

GC

And you can fuck yourself for your disrespect for my concerns regarding
my wife and her personal wellbeing. Nice display of love cocksucker!

You're not only jealous, you're are a coward.

GC

As for G-C, he's just a smug, sanctimonious asshole who likes to go on personal attacks, like he also did to me about my marriage.

I never attacked you nor your wife, you are full of hatred for Christians. I did not attack 'fff's wife, actually I was commending her for the strength see shows in her faith and for her God, and he is jealous of her because he sees she loves God above all. What he doesn't realize is the love she has for God enhances her love for him, that is what I would consider being a coward or should I say insecurity. It's none of your business but you do not know what he said to me in a PM. So go crawl in a corner and stay out of something that is none of your business, Mr. big nose.

GC

GC, remember a few weeks ago when I said I wanted to be your friend?

I respectfully retract that offer.

It's your choice, I did nothing wrong here. All I said was he was jealous of his wife, now you tell me what's wrong with that.

GC

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Who said anything about forcing his convictions on her? He merely commented on the distress he felt when hearing his wife would die for something he believes to be false.

You know it really doesn't matter what he believes, it is her life and she has the right independent of his will to live it as she sees fit. If he is going to force his will on her then what kind of husband does that make him.

GC

The problem is that no one except the Christians here are talking about anyone forcing anything on anyone. Does your persecution complex run so deep that if a man shows concern that his wife is willing to die for her(and your) religion, he must be forcing his will upon her? Grow up and quit pretending like you're taking some kind of high road here. You have the balls to criticize what kind of husband he is, but your reading comprehension is so low you can't even grasp his point. Clearly it doesn't matter what anyone actually says as long as you get to feel that your beliefs are being persecuted and you can feel superior for condemning someone based on something that only happened in your deluded, little mind.

This whole thing came about because he wanted pity from you guys, how pitiful is that. When I challenged him by saying he was jealous, he blew this whole thing out of proportion, to me it's just childish at best. Now let's just drop this whole unfortunate deal.

GC

Or how to be a decent human being.

I'm sure most of the theists here have recognised by now that most of us 'atheists' don't really care about their beliefs or their version of 'god'. In fact, the only reason we're talking about it at all is because folk such as yourself insist on doing so. If people just kept their beliefs to themselves, then the world would be a better place.

But, as you say, you can talk to us all the time about your beliefs. Nobody here is going to stop you from doing that. It's just odd that so many theists start to get their knickers in a twist when people disagree with them, and disagree with them forcefully. Not accusing you of being such as person, but it's evident throughout this board.

Some people however seem to lack that basic human ability to empathise. When I spoke about my dad, I didn't do so with the aim of eliciting sympathy, or concern. I did it to counter a point made by another poster. Yet somehow, on that thread, I was accused of using my father's condition as a stop tactic on the debate; to stifle it using an 'un-touchable subject (family)'. That is false, and demonstrably false to anyone who read the thread in question. I was then attacked by the other poster, and worse, had my own father's condition used as an attack against me.

This is the reason for Esquilax's post above.

And there's two people in this world. People who know what I'm talking about, and people who lack the ability to empathise and understand reasoning.

I mentioned my parents on here a couple of times and they were run into the ground by the ones you believe are the do-gooders. I have not nor will I ever mention them before such heathens again, so you all should quit your crying and move on this has become pathetic.

GC

There you good sir, you want to see your disgusting behavior here it is. I should have to tell why it is pitful., you are a adult after all.