Ethics

[pineapplebunnybounce]

How ridiculous.

I'll entertain the theory that religion was once beneficial to survival, but it has mutated into a power game now really, and the deluded just haven't seen it yet. But its purpose has never been peacekeeping, have you seen the old testament? It's a manual on how to live in a warlike era. Just keep killing the outsiders. Peacekeeping my ass.

And yes, religion IS BAD.

you're ridiculous. I said that religion was only beneficial to survival because of the power involved. The old testament isn't a manual, it's a book of stories with figurative meanings. You'd know that if you knew what you were arguing about.

Well that's wrong too.

Yes it is, the old testament is basically a lot of laws and commandments and other fantastical story about god killing people.

[Zazzy]

the bible says to be fruitful and multiply, and gay people physically can't multiply.

You think gay people are sterile? I'll have to immediately go and tell my gay friends with children that their children don't exist.

Gay people have natural children ALL THE TIME.

[Dunno]

So, what about those ten commandments?

Because you're a Christian you don't understand the old testament. You don't understand that the bible is figurative and meant to be analyzed over and over again. You can't even speak the language it was written in.

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... and the creation! What about that!?

I love it when people cherry pick the whole OT out of the Bible as "figurative" or not applicable anymore. Cute. You would think the all knowing god would know people would take it seriously and warn us to not do it. I mean... it could have saved lives and hurt feelings. But what do I know?

You know nothing. To the Jewish people the bible has always been figurative. What do you think rabbis do? They analyze it and find figurative meanings. And to become a Jew you have to analyze and find the meaning of a story for yourself. This aspect is lost to the Christians who find themselves dominated by arrogant knowitalls.

[Kayenneh]

But I'm not wrong, it's about enforcing ethics on people.

This I have a problem with. As long as ethics remain in the realm of philosophy, no one has the rights to enforce their views and opinions on anybody else.

As sure as the cops enforce the law, the religious enforce the law of the supernatural, and these laws are meant to be ethical truths.

As a citizen I have some say in what laws govern me, but as I said, 'law enforcement' for 'ethical truths' is complete and utter bullshit. Ethical truths? Most of these pissheads can't even get simple, actual truths in their heads, such as giving blowjobs sucking off the foreskin of an infant with your mouth can cause severe health issues or death.

I'm sorry but your argument is uneducated.

Be sorry all you want, but uneducated I am not.

You say that religion is about killing the infidels, when that's against the law of most religions.

You just proved my point even more. Seventh commandment of Christians, don't kill. Yet, 'justified' wars have been fought over and over and over again, not just because of other people having different believes and threaten the 'purity' of the doctrine, but now it's mostly done for greed. The soldiers that do kill are not all to blame, how can you say no to your superior officers or those who thought invading Country X was profitable and a good idea? That shows the mercy of those leaders, they say that they are devote Christians, yet they send out those who haven't much of a say in things, fully knowing that the ones on the frontlines are the ones that have to break their oaths to their gods.

If a person wants to kill infidels, it most likely isn't alright with their religion.

*Scoff*
Yeah, tell that to any fundamentalist.

I'll agree with you that there isn't a god but I'm not going to agree with you that religion somehow tells people to do bad stuff, and is bad, most religious people see their faith as guidance on how to lead a good life, and the majority rules.

Fuck no! If people feel like they need a god to tell them how to behave like a decent human being, something is truly rotten.

I'm right, and you're wrong, bashing religions as if they want to harm people when all they ever do is go on and on about morality and being good to people, if a person sets out to do bad, then he's not doing religious work, even if they do it in the name of religion.

Oh, in that case I guess that the Pope and his Cardinals do in fact no work for the Catholic church. Wake up and smell the pancakes.

There's a difference between politics and religion, however both have power. Think of a chess board. A king, queen, bishop, knight, rook, and pawns. What is the job of the bishop? It is to be an ethical voice in the ear of the ruthless king who sets out to destroy the other king.

That's a really naïve way of thinking. The bishop is the ethical voice in the ear of the king? They're more like to plot together over a fancy dinner.

They can't break the ten commandments.

And yet they do.

[freedomfromforum]

So, what about those ten commandments?

Because you're a Christian you don't understand the old testament. You don't understand that the bible is figurative and meant to be analyzed over and over again. You can't even speak the language it was written in.

@Dunno,

Seriously? Are you on medication today? You sound like you're flipping the script now. I understand that you fondle philosophy with your feet, but this is getting ridiculous. This is a hands-on discussion, and you are grasping at clouds.

[Faith No More]

Because you're a Christian you don't understand the old testament. You don't understand that the bible is figurative and meant to be analyzed over and over again. You can't even speak the language it was written in.

Oh, I'm a Christian, am I? It's funny when someone with such a feeble grasp on reality starts telling others what they don't understand.

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That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Mostly because there isn't homosexuality in the bible, so the bible didn't say it. If someone said it's a sin, then whatever, they can say what they want. Perhaps they just don't understand the motive of gay people because the bible says to be fruitful and multiply, and gay people physically can't multiply.

Well, I wouldn't expect reason to sound intelligent to a half-wit such as yourself.

And you didn't even address my points. You just whined like a little bitch.

[Dunno]

You think gay people are sterile? I'll have to immediately go and tell my gay friends with children that their children don't exist.

Gay people have natural children ALL THE TIME.

I thought gay people were men who wanted to have sex with men and women who wanted to have sex with women, in which case, multiplying is impossible. So you're confusing me now. It appears that I was wrong and a new species has appeared, able to give birth out their asshole.

[My imaginary friend is GOD]

You think gay people are sterile? I'll have to immediately go and tell my gay friends with children that their children don't exist.

Gay people have natural children ALL THE TIME.

I thought gay people were men who wanted to have sex with men and women who wanted to have sex with women, in which case, multiplying is impossible. So you're confusing me now. It appears that I was wrong and a new species has appeared, able to give birth out their asshole.

Apparently, you are stupid. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean their reproductive organs don't work. I'm planning on having a child when I get out of school. I'm a lesbian.

[Faith No More]

I thought gay people were men who wanted to have sex with men and women who wanted to have sex with women, in which case, multiplying is impossible. So you're confusing me now. It appears that I was wrong and a new species has appeared, able to give birth out their asshole.

You're not going for dumbest poster ever, are you?

Because you're certainly getting there.

[Dunno]

that's not what I said. I said it's impossible for a man and a man who have sex, and a woman and a woman who have sex, for that sex to create a baby is impossible, you stupid little shit. I don't even know how they accomplish something that they can even call sex, because of this obvious fact.