Atheist superheroes?

[Sword of Christ]

If you like, but my point is that their source isn't divine; they're claiming to be angels, capitalizing on the raw belief of the religious, without actually being sent from heaven or anything, because within the bounds of the fiction there doesn't seem to be one.

A fictional setting where God doesn't exist? I suppose. Though you would have to ask where all these extra dimensions and all this stuff in general came from in the first place.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Aren't we technically extra-dimensional beings to beings not in our dimension? What if we're the most advanced 'thing' in the entirety of the Universe. Anyway, defending the earth against things that don't exist...sounds like someone could create a con there

If you like, but my point is that their source isn't divine; they're claiming to be angels, capitalizing on the raw belief of the religious, without actually being sent from heaven or anything, because within the bounds of the fiction there doesn't seem to be one.

A fictional setting where God doesn't exist? I suppose. Though you would have to ask where all these extra dimensions and all this stuff in general came from in the first place.

Oh, I know. Your very narrow and specific version of someone else's version of another version of a 'god' created it and told you, directly, that it's right and that you should convert everyone else to believe the same thing so everyone can have a party in the sky forever and forever and the baddy can't win.

Pls, lets not get into a discussion about fictions.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Here are some atheist superheroes:

-George Holyoake

-Robert Ingersoll

-Richard Carlile

-John William Gott

-Giuseppe Garibaldi

-Clement Atlee

-Francis and Hanna Sheehy-Skeffington

-Primo Levi

-Salmon Rushdie

*****

I'm uncertain why we need to look to comic books to find heroes among the ranks of atheists.

Boru

[Captain Colostomy]

They're also comics...make believe. Care to still make the comparison?

You know these forms of beings can't also exist in reality because?

Yawn. Mental masturbation may fascinate you, but it isn't interesting to me.

[Sword of Christ]

Oh, I know. Your very narrow and specific version of someone else's version of another version of a 'god' created it and told you, directly, that it's right and that you should convert everyone else to believe the same thing so everyone can have a party in the sky forever and forever and the baddy can't win.

There is either a single purpose giving eternal source of all things that exist or purposeless eternally existing mater energy exists and by chance some of it will form planets, stars and life without a plan, intention or purpose. One or the other. If you think the latter scenario is the truth of the situation then you can believe that, you're very wrong of course but there you go.

Yawn. Mental masturbation may fascinate you, but it isn't interesting to me.

That's all atheism is really unless you want to say it's a belief like anything else.

[Tonus]

A fictional setting where God doesn't exist? I suppose. Though you would have to ask where all these extra dimensions and all this stuff in general came from in the first place.

From the writer's imagination, of course. In a fictional setting the background details can be glossed over unless they're vital to the story somehow. It's like any other fictional, mythological work.

[Esquilax]

There is either a single purpose giving eternal source of all things that exist or purposeless eternally existing mater energy exists and by chance some of it will form planets, stars and life without a plan, intention or purpose. One or the other. If you think the latter scenario is the truth of the situation then you can believe that, you're very wrong of course but there you go.

Or: multiple creative intelligences working together. Multiple creative intelligences working against one another, each creating separate quadrants of the universe in some kind of conflict. A being from within the universe travelling back in time and setting the initial conditions of the universe with a view of ensuring his own existence. An initial natural spark later worked upon by a directing intelligence. An initial creative spark abandoned by the creator. A mirror universe working in reverse of a blueprint universe via natural means as a result of some natural work of physics. etc etc.

False dichotomies are bad, Sword.

That's all atheism is really unless you want to say it's a belief like anything else.

Don't be childish.

[Sword of Christ]

From the writer's imagination, of course. In a fictional setting the background details can be glossed over unless they're vital to the story somehow. It's like any other fictional, mythological work.

If you want to establish how these "fake angels" aren't the same things as "real angels" you would still need to explain the difference within the setting. Angels who are (or can potentially be) hostile to humans are generally called something else though.

[Tonus]

If you want to establish how these "fake angels" aren't the same things as "real angels" you would still need to explain the difference within the setting. Angels who are (or can potentially be) hostile to humans are generally called something else though.

That is as simple as calling them something else. "Aliens" would be the most likely culprit. Anything that is outside of the planet can be described in a way that would apply to angels, demons, gods, and aliens. If the writer is lazy he'll just have characters state this without justification and skip to the maiming and the killing. If he's determined to make this a central point of his story (which seems to be the case here) he'll need to create a more elaborate explanation.

Whether he does that I don't know, I was not impressed enough by the preview images to want to find this particular comic. The concept of granting power to something by virtue of belief may have some philosophical value, but it's likely to be used due to laziness on the writer's part. No matter how many times you "defeat" the bad guys, they'll live to fight another day as long as someone, somewhere, believes. For a "continual" medium like comics, it's the perfect setting.

[Sword of Christ]

The Warhammer 40K and the HP Lovecraft settings explain what these demonic entities are outside of their traditional context within the fictional world they create. They're kind of ancient physically manifested horror/insanity rather than rebel angels. So as long as the comics have made that clear.