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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
November 2, 2013 at 7:19 pm
They always throw out "free will" when talking about the problem of evil, as if that somehow absolves God of all the needless suffering which occurs in this world.
If I were an omnipotent deity, I'd find a way to create a world in which there was no evil.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
November 3, 2013 at 12:46 am
Well I'm not entirely convinced of free will either.
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
November 3, 2013 at 1:56 am
Yeah I can agree on choice but not free will.
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
November 3, 2013 at 8:08 am
(October 29, 2013 at 2:39 pm)Informative2016 Wrote: I'm currently working on an Apologetics project in which I need to talk to a few people who consider to be atheists and why they believe what they do.
Question 1: Why do you not believe in a God
Question 2: Why do you choose to deny the existence of a God
I'll start off with that, thank you, I look forward to an interesting conversation
When you figure out why you narrowed it down to the one, you'll know why others narrowed it down to none.
(October 29, 2013 at 11:54 pm)Informative2016 Wrote: by taking college level physics I'm knowledgeable of this, you have come as far as what? Believing in the big Bang THEORY?
Hypothesis. Hypothesis is the word you're looking for.
And I'm not taking college level physics...
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
November 3, 2013 at 8:17 am
Wait, don't scare him off. I want to know what's going to happen in 2016. Massive floods? Nuclear war? Jesus floating down on Pegasus' back with his Sword of Righteous Vengeance +2? What? Whaaaaat?!
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
November 3, 2013 at 8:25 am
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(October 29, 2013 at 2:39 pm)Informative2016 Wrote: I'm currently working on an Apologetics project in which I need to talk to a few people who consider to be atheists and why they believe what they do.
Question 1: Why do you not believe in a God
Question 2: Why do you choose to deny the existence of a God
I'll start off with that, thank you, I look forward to an interesting conversation
1 nothing I've experienced in my life has ever given me a reason to believe in god.
And everything I have experienced has led me to believe that all beliefs of religious cults are not true.
2 Nothing I've experienced in my life has ever given me a reason to believe in god.
And everything I have experienced has led me to believe that all beliefs of religious cults are not true.
(October 29, 2013 at 2:57 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: They are atheists because they look to themselves and find what they want to be true. No this is just babble, I look to Islam and Christianity and all the other cults of the earth and find that they all talk similar bullshit.
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
November 8, 2013 at 3:57 pm
(October 29, 2013 at 2:39 pm)Informative2016 Wrote: I'm currently working on an Apologetics project in which I need to talk to a few people who consider to be atheists and why they believe what they do.
Question 1: Why do you not believe in a God
Question 2: Why do you choose to deny the existence of a God
I'll start off with that, thank you, I look forward to an interesting conversation
1. There's no evidence that a god exists .
2. See 1.
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
November 9, 2013 at 3:45 am
(October 29, 2013 at 3:09 pm)Informative2016 Wrote: (October 29, 2013 at 2:51 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: I'm guessing that you do not have the fullest capacity in your mindset to understand the simplicity of our responses. IF you are an a-Zeusist, WHY? Is there some specific reason as to why you choose to NOT believe in Zeus, you already acknowledge the fact that there IS a Zeus, now why is there a denial?
Zeus is a MYTHOLOGICAL Greek God, Lets restate that, MYTHOLOGICAL. Hence the fact that it is a figment of our imagination, God is NOT. You have no proof to deny the fact that there is no God, I on the other hand have the Bible, a book which has been tried to be disproved but scholars are unable to because it is historically correct and that's why atheists who do real research decide to convert to Christianity because they see the wonders that God does.
Zeus and all the other gods humans have invented are mythological but your deity isn't, even though many of their religions existed before Christianity and Judaism from which it derived?
You have no proof that there's no Zeus, or Odin or any other gods. Just because you can't see them doesn't mean they don't exist.
The bible has been discredited many times. It's contradictory at best. You'll find the reality is the opposite of your claim. Studies have shown that the people who know the bible best are generally atheists followed by the Mormons.
As is the case for many people, those who study the bible thoroughly - the whole thing, not just the parts they think should apply to them - often become agnostics or atheists.
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
November 9, 2013 at 4:05 am
(November 9, 2013 at 3:45 am)Beccs Wrote: As is the case for many people, those who study the bible thoroughly - the whole thing, not just the parts they think should apply to them - often become agnostics or atheists.
Which makes me chuckle since back when I was a believer people spoke with such certainty that if you studied the bible thoroughly you'd come back a believer.
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
November 9, 2013 at 2:26 pm
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(October 29, 2013 at 2:47 pm)Informative2016 Wrote: (October 29, 2013 at 2:42 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Really?! I mean REALLY?!? THAT's how you want to word your question???
jesusfuckingchristonapopciclestick
I'm guessing that you do not have the fullest capacity in your mindset to understand the simplicity of my question. IF you are an atheist, WHY? Is there some specific reason as to why you choose to NOT believe in a God, you already acknowledge the fact that there IS a God, now why is there a denial?
You're an idiot.
You'll most likely pass your apologist project with flying colours.
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